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Wealthy Finn received $103,000 speeding ticket
St. Louis Post Dispatch ^ | 04/15/02 | The Associated Press

Posted on 04/15/2002 8:54:59 AM PDT by Orual

Edited on 05/11/2004 10:57:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

HELSINKI, Finland - Anssi Vanjoki was driving his motorcycle 46.5 mph in a 30-mph zone. He got a ticket. His fine was $103,000. Finns are outraged.

The penalty was so harsh because traffic fines in Finland are based not just on the severity of the offense, but on the offender's income. Vanjoki is a senior executive of Nokia, the world's largest cell phone maker, and his fine was based on his 1999 income of $5.2 million.


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1 posted on 04/15/2002 8:54:59 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Orual
because traffic fines in Finland are based not just on the severity of the offense, but on the offender's income

Unbelievable! How did they sink so low? Wait...let me guess: "PROGRESSIVE" LIBERALS
2 posted on 04/15/2002 8:57:54 AM PDT by Libertina
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To: Orual
Finns have apparently been too long in the sauna, cooking their brains. Are they trying to drive every successful person out of the country?
3 posted on 04/15/2002 9:00:47 AM PDT by thucydides
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To: Orual; Wally Cleaver
European countries tend to have high-tax systems with excellent welfare services, and Finland with its 5 million people is no exception. Fines linked to income for various offenses are common elsewhere as well.

I didn't realize welfare services could be deemed excellent.

4 posted on 04/15/2002 9:01:06 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Orual
It's all unfair, it's always unfair. If you've ever had a misfortune to meet the whiners at a local traffic school (or been one yourself) you'll know what I mean. Victims of "fascism" we all are, ain't we?!
5 posted on 04/15/2002 9:01:14 AM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: Orual
"Sir, may I see your Driver's license,
vehicle registration, and current 1040 Form,
please?"
6 posted on 04/15/2002 9:01:31 AM PDT by alancarp
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To: dighton; aculeus; All
"The Fenni live in astonishing barbarism and disgusting misery: no arms, no horses, no household; wild plants for their food, skins for their clothing, the ground for their beds.." Tacitus (c. 55-120) Germania
7 posted on 04/15/2002 9:03:05 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Orual
Fines linked to income for various offenses are common elsewhere as well.

If that's the case my fines won't be too high.

8 posted on 04/15/2002 9:05:55 AM PDT by mafree
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To: Orual
This is an excellent article for those naysayers out there that say America is as bad as Europe.
9 posted on 04/15/2002 9:08:49 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: Orual
"Although the flaws affect only a few, we should consider whether measures can be taken to improve the law without destroying the system which, in itself, is just,"

That is a concept which has certainly escaped our lawmakers.

As far as this particular system being just, that still can be argued. There is something to be said about making traffic fines impact more equally by considering income but this instance is clearly beyond reason.

10 posted on 04/15/2002 9:29:11 AM PDT by Semper
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To: FourtySeven
Unfortunately, what will happen is that someone will suggest we do this here, and cite "they do it in Finland" as support.
11 posted on 04/15/2002 9:29:28 AM PDT by Freemyland
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To: Fred Mertz
I didn't realize welfare services could be deemed excellent.

How about if those welfare services were properly conceived and administrated, helping only those in valid need (i.e. disabled) and you were a recipient those services. You might consider that service excellent.

12 posted on 04/15/2002 9:39:51 AM PDT by Semper
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To: Fred Mertz
Fred, thanks for the flag. Can't wait to send this one to my wife who is a Finn---
13 posted on 04/15/2002 9:41:17 AM PDT by Wally Cleaver
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To: Fred Mertz
Fred, thanks for the flag. Can't wait to send this one to my wife who is a Finn. This happened to one of the Finn NHL hockey players who was vacationing in Finland, got caught speeding and had to pay some obnoxious fine.
14 posted on 04/15/2002 9:42:48 AM PDT by Wally Cleaver
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To: Freemyland
someone will suggest we do this here

Not a chance of that happening here. Our lawmakers (mainly influenced by their monetary supporters) will not institute anything which is against their personal interests.

15 posted on 04/15/2002 9:45:40 AM PDT by Semper
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To: Wally Cleaver
So what did the ole lady have to say about this?
16 posted on 04/15/2002 8:07:35 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz;LadyX,Billie,ofMagog,COB1,scuttlebutt,parsifal,Fred Mertz,Snow Bunny
This is an outrage, he should'a been fined 10% of his income for such unsocial behavior,50% for his second and 100% for his third. Three time losers should not be able to work, that will teach 'em.


17 posted on 04/15/2002 9:03:51 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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