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Sex, Equality, And Kidding Ourselves (Should Men put their foot down and say enough is enough??)
FredonEverything.com ^ | 4/17/02 | Fred Reed

Posted on 04/17/2002 1:58:35 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K

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To: Valpal1
"The abbandonment of Patriarchy for the Playboy philosophy is what started the gender war, it's just that the playboys have been very good at ducking and the patriarchs have take the shellacking."

Thanks for clearing that up. I fell for the old story about abortion-on-demand, liberal social welfare policies, and "divorce on demand" being responsible for the destruction of the family and marginalization of the father. Now I know the problen was really caused by guys looking at racy pictures, reading dirty jokes, and learning how to tell the difference between a Lamborghini and a Ferrari.

21 posted on 04/17/2002 3:18:08 PM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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To: RLK
"They have foregone serious long term relationships with women."

I see many single men in their 20s-30s-40s.

22 posted on 04/17/2002 3:19:42 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: RLK
The majority of them have. They have foregone serious long term relationships with women.

The problem is that they haven't given up casual sex, so women can still have children without husbands. Men have in effect taken themselves out of the family unit and the ability to influence future generations, but most are too busy reading the latest issue of Playboy to see what they have done to themselves.

23 posted on 04/17/2002 3:19:57 PM PDT by Balto_Boy
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To: Valpal1
"You dudes put your patriarchal house in order and you'll have no trouble getting the gals back in line."

Are these women worth having?

24 posted on 04/17/2002 3:20:27 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: BibChr
Well, I suppose that's one way to spend your last brief moments on earth....

When I put my foot down, it did not end my life, but it sure ended my marriage. So much for that line of reasoning.

25 posted on 04/17/2002 3:20:45 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Harrison Bergeron
You are confusing the magazine with the philosphy of using women as utilitarian object for self pleasure, viewing children as burdens rather than gifts.

If you ever voluteer in an abortion alternative center, you would realize that abortions are not demanded by girls, but by playboys who want to play and not be men.

26 posted on 04/17/2002 3:27:41 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1
Playboy and the pill came along about the same time to enable us to find ourselves, if it feels good do it etc. And the bottom line - the reason we even have gender and physical attraction and sexual relations etc.- the raising of healthy children of character and worth - was just swept aside.
27 posted on 04/17/2002 3:28:09 PM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Askel5
YES!!!!
28 posted on 04/17/2002 3:28:31 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: M 91 u2 K
It's all over folks. Women are making men gay. The answer is in your water supply. A recent study in England showed that the

Fears over the "gender bender" effect of pollution, arose after Environment Agency research showed that half of all the male fish in low-lying English rivers are changing sex as a result of water pollution.

The source of contamination is believed to be urine from tens of thousands of women who use the contraceptive pill.

Sperm counts are going down steeply in England. Is contraception our own suicide bomb? By the time women decide to have another baby boom, the men will be gay. What goes around comes around.

29 posted on 04/17/2002 3:29:55 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: Don Myers
Hey, some of us unabashadly, unashamedly feminine female vessels of life are VERY worth having!

But might I suggest you keep your pants zipped until you have in fact married such a female.

30 posted on 04/17/2002 3:32:45 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Let's Roll
Playboy and the pill came along about the same time

NOT even the same decade.

31 posted on 04/17/2002 3:34:59 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: ex-snook
1. Fish aren't people.

2. Low sperm count means a man is sterile, not gay.

32 posted on 04/17/2002 3:36:24 PM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl
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To: Valpal1
"But might I suggest you keep your pants zipped until you have in fact married such a female."

I already am married. I was talking about the younger generation.

33 posted on 04/17/2002 3:41:27 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Valpal1
Which Gender is more likley to cheat?
34 posted on 04/17/2002 3:42:30 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
Which gender is most likely to cheat? Well I think the current statistics are still showing men to be the winners in the category, although women are fast closing and may soon equal men.

The individual least likely to cheat is the one most committed to their children or to the ideal of monogamy.

Which is why one should first be committed to the ideal (which always remains lovely) before committing to a person (who will have unlovely moments).

35 posted on 04/17/2002 3:55:29 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
It seems reasonable to assume that if sperm count plummets, a man's masculine attitudes and behaviors will also plummet. The fact is that sperm counts are dropping. How would you explain it? What results would you expect?
36 posted on 04/17/2002 4:10:52 PM PDT by born yesterday
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To: Don Myers
"They have foregone serious long term relationships with women." I see many single men in their 20s-30s-40s.

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There are now more never-married people in that age group than since the sex's were separated by the American fronier.

37 posted on 04/17/2002 4:16:14 PM PDT by RLK
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To: born yesterday
Dude, a man's masculine attitudes and behaviors are connected to his testosterone levels, not his sperm count.

Sterile men aren't any less guys than normal men.

38 posted on 04/17/2002 4:17:11 PM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl
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To: Valpal1
Hey, some of us unabashadly, unashamedly feminine female vessels of life are VERY worth having! But might I suggest you keep your pants zipped until you have in fact married such a female.

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To a slight extent true, but let's be a little more truthful. One man keeping his pants zipped has little effect when the only thing it means is that the modern liberated woman is going to screw somebody else.

39 posted on 04/17/2002 4:26:22 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Valpal1
In 1960, the first oral contraceptive (Enovid-10) was launched in the US market. First issue of Playboy - December 1953 (the Marilyn Monroe issue) so call it 1954. So, yes, different "decade" but certainly closer than you're implying. I thought they were about five years apart.
40 posted on 04/17/2002 4:26:42 PM PDT by Let's Roll
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