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To: Phil V.;LarryLied;Hamza01
I think the blowback from this is going to be terrible.
What is the worst thing is the lopsided support of Israel, extorted through lobbyists and hardball political blackmail, has caused us terrible damage to our reputation as an honest broker. Too many mistakenly think that America is waging war against them by proxy Israel. They do not understand the nature of power politics and AIPAC and ADL lobbying to name but two.
3 posted on 04/18/2002 8:18:21 PM PDT by luvzhottea
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To: luvzhottea
So the next time the isrealis go into a west bank town, do it like the US would do. Use your air force and level the area.

Stop trying to limit the "innocent" ccauslities.

If you are going to be blamed for war crimes you should probably go ahead an do it.

IE no more mister nice guy.

6 posted on 04/18/2002 8:24:05 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: Seti 1
FYI
7 posted on 04/18/2002 8:25:08 PM PDT by luvzhottea
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To: luvzhottea
Certainly killing women and children can never be justified but when they are being used as human shields by the lowest form of humanity there is little choice but to go in and do the job and worry about collateral damage later.
8 posted on 04/18/2002 8:31:59 PM PDT by appeal2
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To: luvzhottea
Hate to tell you this, but we never asked to be an "honest broker". Bush wanted to stay completely out of this and he succeeded until the Arab leaders pushed him into sending Powell. Once Powell got to see it for himself, the decision was easier. You can not be for the middle ground when you are dealing with terrorists, and Arafat and his minions are terrorists. Not "noble warriors" fighting for independence, they are murderers and thugs.

Who cares what the world thinks of us or what they think of Israel. They all hate Americans anyway (until they need their sorry butts bailed out, then suddenly they "love" us).

One thing the Arab street has taught Americans is that they hate our guts, so we don't have to worry about what they think anymore.

10 posted on 04/18/2002 8:35:22 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: luvzhottea
Jenin "Family Day" party in happier times.


24 posted on 04/18/2002 9:54:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: luvzhottea
has caused us terrible damage to our reputation as an honest broker.

Um, you're kidding, right? Haven't you read the Arab press for the past two decades or so?

Anyway, this is a hit job on Israel. Disparate quotes making the Brigadier a "liar." Of course they left the dead in the streets on purpose - it's effective propaganda. And it worked. Let's be objective about it.

27 posted on 04/18/2002 10:05:53 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: luvzhottea
Israel should kill every one of the bastards...
28 posted on 04/18/2002 10:07:42 PM PDT by go star go
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To: luvzhottea; Phil V.
yes, the blowback will be terrible - because it was pre-arranged. All a propaganda goof.

For an Arab view of what happened in Jenin, from an Arab newspaper, check out this article:

"The Engineer"

29 posted on 04/18/2002 10:09:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: luvzhottea
I think the blowback from this is going to be terrible.

Only among the mentally and history-challenged.

Most of us realize that an identically sympathetic propaganda picture could be assembled of the Germans picking through the rubble of the remains of their cities after their defeat... or the Japanese... or Pol Pot... or Idi Amin...

47 posted on 04/19/2002 5:57:11 AM PDT by Publius6961
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