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Elian 'smoking gun' memo known for 2 years
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, April 19, 2002 | By Sherrie Gossett

Posted on 04/18/2002 11:12:59 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Luis Gonzalez; RMDupree
Who did #29? You, Luis? I would like to frame it.

I expect to get flamed, but I'll be ignoring the flamers:

Donato, I remember when you were interviewed on the radio well before Elian was a household name outside of Miami. I remember when people called in via an interpreter and they kept mentioning God; then you let loose with your testimony about the presence of the Lord on that boat. It confirmed many things in my spirit about this little boy and what he meant to us collectively as a nation, as well as to Cuba and to the world. I'm not as "optimistic" as many are who are convinced that this was a way of getting a Republican in the White House. I rather believe that just as the Lord prepared you that day for what was to come and the persecution that you faced, He is willing to revive and prepare and guide those who will hearken to His voice. Keep your eyes on Him because He is Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Your sister in Christ, PD

41 posted on 04/20/2002 8:34:40 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Lancey Howard
Yeah... and how about the be-acchh that snatched up Elian?
42 posted on 04/20/2002 8:34:42 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: sinkspur
Hey Sinky, I don't think anyone is trying to 'bait". It shouldn't be that big a deal to say "If the details of this story prove out to be be true, I was wrong".
43 posted on 04/20/2002 8:40:25 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: MadIvan
Please Ivan, add Hillary to that mix in hell. She's certainly the daughter of the devil and the one who masterminded the whole incident. She was co-president you know!
44 posted on 04/20/2002 8:48:11 AM PDT by Lucky2
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To: SoCal Pubbie
I'm not sure what story you're talking about. Oh, that Juan Miguel sought asylum?

My stance two years ago was that Elian should be with Juan Miguel, no matter where he is. If he wanted to stay here, and Janet Reno wouldn't let him, then to hell with Janet Reno (to hell with her anyway).

The boy belonged with his father.

45 posted on 04/20/2002 8:53:28 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
The press, United Nations, Ted Turner, and all their cohorts, have so whitewashed conditions in the Cuban gulag, that nobody believes the Cuban community (who by the way still have relatives in Cuba so they know what goes down there). So when Juan Miguel was here, and supposedly said he wanted to return to Cuba, there were telephone conversations to the contrary with Marisleysis and no one outside of Miami cared because the press was demonizing the Gonzalez family. Saying you want to return to Cuba is like saying you want to return to Siberia. I've never heard anyone NOT under duress say they want to stay there or say they want to go back. Even Mexican, Canadian and European communists don't want to stay there.

Did you know that Cuba's infant mortality rate is "low" because they involuntarily abort post term babies, especially if the mother is over 30, put them in plastic bags and allow them to die. I think they then tell the mothers that they were miscarriages. (Remember Elisabet had 7 miscarriages!)

That's just one of the horrors of Cuba. It's funny how the intelligence agencies gather information from people who once lived in a certain country or who receive information from relatives in a certain country, but when Cubans spoke of conditions on the island, many Americans accused them of having an anti-Castro agenda, or wanting their mansions and their servants back. So many Cubans who had to flee for their lives were middle class, lower middle class, blacks, Chinese, Jewish, etc., but the majority of Americans will believe any idiocy that is put out by the left-leaning academia.

Dr. Biscet, the doctor who told the world what he discovered, that Cuba was carrying out infanticide (for one thing, when they raise their infant mortality rate, they get lots of UN money) is in a Cuban prison STILL, getting beaten.

Urgent action needed for pro-life doctor jailed in Cuba
Dr. Biscet thread
Mother and son bludgeoned and drowned by Castro's thugs

46 posted on 04/20/2002 9:20:38 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: sinkspur
And if the father actually prefered he stay in th U.S., then what?
47 posted on 04/20/2002 9:53:11 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Me?

No, Registered did that, one of my favorites.

48 posted on 04/20/2002 10:36:10 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: sinkspur
Correction: "post term babies" should be "late term babies".
49 posted on 04/20/2002 11:35:32 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Rytwyng
Great point! That was the verse that I mentioned long ago here at FR when the controversy started. I read an article from a Jewish publication with an interview of Spencer Eig and he also quoted that verse.
50 posted on 04/20/2002 11:39:33 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Registered
Beautiful!
51 posted on 04/20/2002 11:39:54 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Bump.
52 posted on 04/20/2002 2:20:20 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The memo indicated that the U.S. government had reason to believe Elian's father, Juan Miguel Gonzalez, was being coerced, monitored and coached by Cuban government operatives in his statements. It also said that the father had applied for asylum.

Elian brought many people to Free Republic (including me), helped elect President Bush, introduced many of us to a whole population of courageous, patriotic Cuban-Americans living in our own back yard.

Elian brings us together today in sorrow, and determination...and the memory of the miracle of his survival inspires hope.

This is a story beyond my human comprehension. It took an army of some of the most powerful people in the world to wrench Elian from those who loved him and send him back into bondage in Cuba. We know that there are angels and prayer warriors on Elian's side. I know who I'd pick to eventually win.

53 posted on 04/20/2002 5:03:02 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL! Did YOU do this? Lol!
54 posted on 04/20/2002 8:24:15 PM PDT by No!
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Just Kidding.... I saw...
55 posted on 04/20/2002 8:27:11 PM PDT by No!
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I know I'm several days late replying to Luis' ping, Victoria, but this bothers me.

The editor called it a "very sorry and dirty affair, a terrible thing. Nobody believed us." The Cuban-American community was talking about all of the things covered in this memo, he said.

Why do the people of Florida detest Cubans so?

Is it because of the boatloads of criminals Castro sent over? Are they the ones responsible for the hatred exibited by so many Floridians?

It makes no sense to me that the Americans born in Cuba and their descendants should be so looked down upon. I have never met more hard-working, charming, and loving people in my life than those who have fled Castro for freedom.

What is with so many people in Florida, and not just Florida but anywhere?

56 posted on 04/21/2002 3:26:43 PM PDT by Budge
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To: afraidfortherepublic

NEVER FORGET!

57 posted on 04/21/2002 3:36:39 PM PDT by Budge
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To: Budge
That's an excellent question Budge. Unfortunately I don't have the right answer except to give you a few observations which may or may not be accurate.

I think resentment of Cuban-Americans' strong identity is the basis of people's anger. Cuban-Americans fly the Cuban flag and are proud to show their heritage and traditions. That creates a sense of "us" and "them." Their unswerving loyalty to the Cuban flag is unnerving for most people. They are indeed very patriotic Americans and hard working people. They are in essence conservatives and God and family oriented, which is a prerequisite for an unbending dislike by the liberal media.

58 posted on 04/21/2002 6:12:30 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Never forget! Elian's father tried to immigrate to America, and was used as a pawn by a steel-fisted tyrant. Here is the proof for all those insisting on living in a dream world - i.e. Juan Miguel was just a concerned father and really belonged with his son.
59 posted on 04/26/2002 10:44:12 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: JohnHuang2
Come on, Klayman, don't drop the ball on this.
60 posted on 04/26/2002 10:49:21 PM PDT by doug from upland
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