How to Tell a Democrat from a Republican

Can U Fly ^ | 1999 | By Leon Felkins

[vannrox]

How to Tell a Democrat from a Republican

(Or "Liberal from a Conservative" or "Leftist from a Right Winger" - without loss of generality)

By Leon Felkins

Written 2/25/1999
Revised 3/15/1999

Copyright 1999, All Rights Reserved

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Conservative, n. - A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others.

-- Ambrose Bierce

Many of you have expressed great confusion, in these troubled times, in trying to tell a Republican from a Democrat. Sure, we know what they say they are; most of them have well displayed nameplates. But could you tell one from the other in a blind test? That is, without prior knowledge and access to his/her tshirt, automobile, or dog, could you determine which was which simply by his/her actions? Probably not. The purpose of this essay is to assist you in making such an identification.

In the following paragraphs, I will list the major issues of our times and clearly identify the differences between the Republican and Democrat approaches to these issues.

• Abortion

  • Democrats are generally for abortion. Unwanted pregnancy is -- like addiction to drugs or alcohol, tardiness, and procrastination -- an affliction and therefore needs to be treated by the government.

  • Republicans are generally opposed to abortion unless of course it is one's own daughter that got knocked up, in which case the decent thing to do is to ship her off to some distant city where private but expensive medical care can be provided and the local community is spared the details.

• Animals

  • Democrats believe that wild animals should have all the rights of humans, protected from any harm and allowed to die slow and agonizing deaths like most of the world's humans do.

  • Republicans believe that wild animals were put here for the sport of hunting, provide a little expensive but tough gamy meat, and an occasional fur coat for the missus.

    Both think that domestic animals and the raising thereof need massive government support. This often results in an excess of such animals, which are then killed, burnt or buried (instead of being shipped off to starving humanity around the world for to do so might upset the local economy).

• Capital Punishment

  • Democrats

    Because Democrats are genetically compassionate, they are opposed to capital punishment especially if it is someone who has tortured and molested 27 women and children to death as it is self evident that such a person has had a bad childhood, probably having his pacifier forcibly taken before he was nine years old. However, Democrats do make an exception to this opinion, if the victims were actually a close friend or part of the family. That family includes the family of government employees such as those that were blown up in Oklahoma City. In cases like that, the guy ought to be hung out in the sun by his testicles and left to die a slow death.

  • Republicans

    The Republican's position on this issue is clear and is based upon the Judeo/Christian bible: an eye for an eye. That we are not always completely sure that we have the right dude before we send him on his way to St. Peter is not really all that serious of an issue. "God will sort it out" is their most commonly stated rationale for slaughtering a group of people that from their very looks it is obvious that they are guilty -- of something. Actually God really only gave us a hint as to the real possibilities: how about a lopped head for a mashed finger, for instance? That certainly should work even better. I understand that there are now over 50 offenses for which you can be given a quick dispatch to meet your maker.

• The Children!

  • Democrats love children as a group but find individual children a pain in the butt. "We do it for the children" is an extremely effective slogan for the populace whether the particular program at issue is robbing the tobacco companies, grabbing more land in Colorado, or bombing Kosovo. The annoyance of individual children is easily appeased by hiring illegal aliens for house nannies.

  • Republicans love individual children but find supporting groups of children not part of God's plan (see Jeremiah 18:21: "So give their children over to famine; hand them over to the power of the sword.")

• Crime

  • Democrats know that when someone commits a crime, it is society that has failed and should have to pay -- in the form of higher taxes and reduced freedom.

  • Republicans believe that every person inherently knows right from wrong, whether they were raised by a harlot on the mean streets of East St. Louis or by a wealthy Episcopal minister in the ritzy 'burbs of Germantown. They know that the solution to violent crime is to beat the hell out of the perpetrators.

• Drugs

  • Democrats

    Democrats have no qualms about recreational drugs. In fact they think the use of such drugs is cool. However, medicinal drugs are another matter. Since they think of the general populace as children, they want these drugs highly regulated.

  • Republicans

    Recreational drugs are absolutely verboten according to the Republicans. It is rumored that many folks actually have great fun with such drugs, therefore they are opposed, of course, as it is a basic principle of Conservatism that having too much fun is bad for the character.

    On the other hand, Republicans would allow anyone to prescribe and buy medicinal drugs without constraint as the drug industry is quite profitable. If you use the wrong drug or a bit too much, then the subsequent repairs to your body will again raise the national income just a bit.

    Republicans support the consumption of vast quantities of alcohol even though it kills more people by a factor of ten (more or less) than all the "illegal" drugs combined. This makes sense because, while it may get you high and out of control, technically it is not a "controlled substance".

• The Drug War

  Strangely, while Republicans oppose the use of recreational drugs and Democrats are much more tolerant, they both support, with great enthusiasm, the so-called War on Drugs (WOD). That is because the WOD has little to do with drugs but is big business with large profits and incentives as well as an expression of political agendas and control.

  Making a distinction between Republicans and Democrats with regard to the WOD is difficult for several reasons that are fundamental to what government is all about. I list a few:

  1. The WOD allowed that time-honored tradition of governments -- the seizure of private property -- to be re-instated (amazingly, with citizen approval!). History tells us that in ancient times, governments satisfied their desire for accumulating wealth by simple and honest plunder and property seizure. As governments got smarter, they organized the theft, provided a stable environment for its culture and labeled it "taxation" (See Mancur Olson's essay, "Dictatorship, Democracy, and Development", American Political Science Review, Sept. 1993). I quote Olson (discussing the successful evolution of Chinese warlords): "The warlords had no claim to legitimacy and their thefts were distinguished from those of roving bandits only because they took the form of continuing taxation rather than occasional plunder." In these modern times, the plunder sometimes has even more sophisticated titles such as "surcharge" as used by the recently imposed fee on anyone who has more than one telephone line.

  2. The WOD allows the meddling in the affairs of small defenseless countries at will.

  3. The WOD provides another great opportunity to collect and spend great quantities of taxpayer's hard earned cash without any serious opposition. The reason for this is that the Drug problem is very close to being a natural disaster -- which governments love as they can spend freely without complaints.

  That said, there are still small but helpful distinctions between the Parties:
  • Democrats

    The Democrats, as well as the Republicans, support the WOD, if for no other reason, because to do otherwise would result in the loss of votes. However, Democrats also support the program because it allows the U.S. to act as the world policeman. Socialism is never going to work without one-world government.

  • Republicans

    The Republicans love the WOD because it allows us to build up the military, throw a lot of people in jail that don't come around to the prescribed religious/moral values, and to make huge profits in the liquor and lawyer businesses.

• Education

  • Democrats are for universal government provided education provided that -- to make it fair -- all educational institutions must be equally bad. Of course that only applies to the general population -- politicians send their own children to private schools so that when they graduate they might actually be prepared to make a decent living and they will not be biased against the values of public education for the masses.

  • Republicans support private education but do not see any reason why the institutions shouldn't be government funded. They particularly like the idea of religious or military schools that are better equipped to teach a state of perpetual obedience.

• Environment

  • Democrats see the "environment" as another means to control the masses. Even if "Global Warming" only exists in the heads of some out-of-work pacifists, it is certainly a powerful tool to keep the masses towing the line. Further, it is an massive sink hole for public funds. Have you ever looked at what the asbestos scare cost? And Love Canal?

  • Republicans were a little late in appreciating the merits of environmentalism and have therefore had to live with some bad press. However, someone finally showed them how much money could be made by the example of simply declaring Freon 12 as the main cause of Global Warming from which billions were made developing and selling a new coolant. This brought them around and now they are frantically trying to find the next common household product to ban -- like toilets that use too much water.

• Government Spending

  • Democrats

    Democrats make no apologies for massive government spending. For the government to provide a happy, healthy, shameless, and even exciting society, for everyone, regardless of their personal means, requires a massive amount of cash from the citizens as well as all that can be borrowed. Further, to make sure that no citizen gets into trouble and is in bed each night at a reasonable hour, a huge government staff is a necessity. This, of course, requires every dime the public can spare and just a bit more.

  • Republicans

    Republicans, in their hearts -- particularly at campaign time -- really would like to cut back on government spending, especially such luxuries as the social, environmental, and health programs. But there are necessities that it would be irresponsible to avoid. Such things as National Defense, which requires a military budget far greater than any we have had in any major war, can no more be cut back than you can cut back on helping the folks back home that need a superhighway to the new park out in the country. These are essential expenditures unlike the "feel good" stuff of the Democrats. When Iraq threatens our shores by such hostile actions as flying one of their planes over the southern half of their country, we better be ready for action.

• Individual Liberty

  • Democrats

    Democrats are great believers in the concept of Liberty for all of humanity. It's just that individual humans need to be restrained -- for their on good of course. It would be irresponsible to let individuals endanger their health by eating greasy theater popcorn or drinking water from a mountain stream that some fish has peed in (and hasn't been tested by a government agency). Sadly, when you face the reality, every aspect of human activity must be controlled by the superior knowledge of the government bureaucrat. That government bureaucrats themselves are sometimes accused of being human is a fallacious argument because even though as individuals, they may be bumbling idiots, as a group their holistic association results in superior knowledge.

  • Republicans

    Republicans would like to give people lots of freedom especially those that are economically active such the officers of large corporations and farmers. However, some aspects of human nature just cannot go unpunished. There must be law and order. Violence must be stopped if we have to kill every one of the sorry bastards. Republicans feel that they have the monstrous responsibility of enforcing God's word. It is not a matter of public vote. People who have unapproved sex, get high on anything (including testosterone) except approved drugs such as alcohol, cigarettes, and caffeine, don't regularly go to an approved church, allow their kids to kiss before they get married, and talk smart to policemen that are dutifully beating the hell out of them, must receive appropriate punishment.

• Military

  • Democrats are very fond of the military as it is a vast receptacle of funds and the defense industry has the reputation of being basically a giant welfare program for mostly engineers and scientists, without which millions of them would have to get a real job.

  • Republicans also love the military for its capacity to absorb unbelievably large quantities of money. Even more, they appreciate the importance of importing American Justice to sometimes unreceptive and uncooperative countries by means of our military. Let's face it, kicking a little butt once in awhile can really "make your day"!

• Privacy

  • Democrats believe in the sacred right of privacy as guaranteed by our Founding Fathers. Unless, of course, it involves money, children, or your suspicious conversation on the phone (it is well known that phones are sometimes used by terrorists).

  • Republicans see no particular reason why you would even want privacy. What's the matter? You got something to hide? If you are not doing anything criminal, then privacy should not be a concern, according to them. Also, too much privacy is a real hindrance to getting every one in jail that ought to be there.

• Private Property

  • Democrats believe that all property should be shared equally among the people and enough to the animals to ensure their welfare (which they can't do for the people as there is just not enough of it). To insure the proper usage of property, the government, of course, must be the actual custodian of the property. What you think is yours is actually only on loan to you and may be recalled at any time. The whining of property owners that sometimes lose millions of dollars when the government declares that a piece of property is needed for R&R for traveling geese is misplaced as it never belonged to these so-called property owners in the first place.

  • Republicans, on the other hand, definitely believe in the right to private property as clearly enunciated by our Founding Fathers. But there is one small catch: The Bible is older than the Constitution and trumps it. The bible points out very clearly, "When an ox gores a man or a woman to death, the ox must be stoned; the flesh may not be eaten. The owner of the ox, however, shall go unpunished", Exodus 21:28. That means that if your house or your car or your bank account is in any remote way associated with a crime, then it must be "stoned to death". The modern translation of "stoned to death" is "taken by the government".

    Surprisingly, an amazing amount of property is in someway related to a crime. For example, let us say that some pot dealer is driving down the street and decides to turn his car around using your driveway. It is obvious that your property has now aided in a crime for if it had not been there, the druggie's auto would have fallen into a bottomless pit. Case closed.

• Racial Issues

  • Democrats believe all "minority" races to be "disadvantaged" and to need government help. An exception is made for the Orientals because they stubbornly insist on doing quite well for themselves and refuse to suck up. Democrats see minorities mainly as large block votes at bargain prices. Racial groups should not be encouraged to mix as we need to retain each of their cultures and the resultant voting blocks.

  • Republicans have always been fond of the "people of color" as they have been very well behaved house servants every since Lincoln freed them from slavery. Classes should not be allowed to mix because an inferior offspring will result. Yes, some claim that hybrids in the animal world are usually superior to their parents but this is easily explained as humans obviously are not animals!

    Other views.

• Religion

  • Democrats think religion is cool especially if it is "New Age", ancient Native American superstitions, Far East shamanism, or African witch doctors. What they can't stand are the low class, red neck religions like Church of God and Southern Baptists.

  • Republicans are in full support of religion and see it as every citizen's duty -- as long as it is "main line". The definition of "main line" is left up to the politicians, of course.

• Sex

  • Democrats are in full support of sexual activity, especially if it is a little kooky. The concept of the old fashioned "male-female" sexual interaction is best left to the lower animals.

  • Republicans know that the purpose of sex is for procreation and not pleasure. If you must have pleasurable sex, which by definition would be outside of the marriage, then for God's sake have the decency to lie about it!

    More here.

• Smoking

  • Democrats consider any form of smoking of tobacco that is produced by the large corporations to be evil. The only material acceptable for smoking is marijuana or Native American ritual tobacco. If you are invited to the home of one of your cool friends and are handed a joint, do not think you have to eat it just because there is a sign on the wall that says, "Thank you for not Smoking".

  • Republicans think smoking is fine as long as it provides the opportunity to ship large quantities of money to the subsidized tobacco farmers and producers. Of course the smoking of any "controlled substance" is not permitted even if tobacco kills far more people. Because, it is the law, you idiot. Republicans are for law and order. Lots of both.

• War and other "World Cop" Activities

  • Democrats, the "Peace Party", are strongly against war and other police actions and will attempt to create legislation to limit presidential powers and to influence public opinion -- during Republican administrations. Of course, if the Democrats happen to be in charge, then such activities are OK because their purpose is to stop violence and to "prevent further suffering and bloodshed".

  • Republicans, on the other hand, have no hesitation in bombing any recalcitrant country (those that refuse to accept aid in return for submission to U.S. control) "back to the stone age", unless, of course, the Democrats are in power. In that case, they are opposed to such acts because Democrats rarely have a decent "exit strategy". ("Exit Strategy" is a term often used in discussions of sexual activity. It is sort of the opposite to "foreplay".)

• Wealth

  • Democrats believe in the concept of "equal distribution of wealth" even if they happened to be personally hoarding quite a pile of it. They justify this by the fact that to do their job requires that they live in a certain high class style that allows them to associate with the influential.

  • Republicans believe that hard work and the economic "invisible hand" will make sure that anyone who deserves it gets it or the reverse as the case may be. By definition, if you are broke and living off the street, you deserve it.

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[cantfindagoodscreenname]

Perception is everything, I guess.

[patriotUSA]

Republicans believe that every person inherently knows right from wrong, whether they were raised by a harlot on the mean streets of East St. Louis...

East St Louis was a mean city some years ago, but now it's mostly just a poor city.

[jimt]

Beautiful !!!!!

[galt-jw]

both are statists: they do not disagree that the state has the authority to abrogate personal rights. both are insatiable for power, micro management and taxes. repubs are more reprehensible, because they operate under the pretense of freedom. dems make no such pretense, they admit it.

[MarkWar]

>How to Tell a Democrat from a Republican...

Oh so very funny.

Of course, we all know how to recognize a libertarian:

Mark W.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

This sounds like it was written by someone who, at least superficially, understands that democrats (and their positions) are idiotic and/or immoral, but doesn't really want to come to grips with the true republican (or conservative, or whatever) views on the issues. Odd.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

loser objectivist

[Kay Soze]

If you se John McCain sitting in your garage with the lights off and blind folded murmering..."forestal...forestal... more rice please" Then your a democrat!

[Noumenon]

This is easy:

There's a bus headed for Hell. Periodically, the passengers get to vote on the driver, entirely missing the point about the destination.

When Democrats are in the driver's seat, they have the pedal to the metal.

When Republicans are in the driver's seat, they also have the pedal to the metal, but they tap the brakes every now and then.

[mil-vet]

If you must have pleasurable sex, which by definition would be outside of the marriage.....

It's really too bad you married the wrong person if this "outside of the marriage" thing is true for you! Be jealous of me, VERY, VERY jealous, and YOU FORGOT THE BARF ALERT!

[SoDak]

Entertaining piece!

[E=MC²]

OR:

[roylene]

oh - ha ha

Truth is: liberals base their facts on feelings and conservatives base their feelings on facts.

[Howie66]

Generally the democRAT would be the one that wears a styrofoam helmet while driving their oil burning Volvo through the corner gas station parking lot to avoid stopping for the traffic light with a Gore/Lieberman 2000 and Earth First bumper stickers on the bike rack fitted to the rear bumper.

They are also inclined to be the one with the shopping cart loaded up with about 5,000 items that has taken station at the 10 item limit express lane and have their food stamp card at the ready. More likely than not, this individual will demand the plastic rather than paper bags. They are also prone to having their kids (the ones that were not aborted) running around the store aisles "rearrainging" displays with reckless abandon.

[vannrox]

Please don't be nasty. I did not write this, and I do not agree with everything written. This is true for most of my posts. I generally post quite a bit, and I sometimes get some awful statements by others thinking that I agree with what I post.


Not that you have done this, but words like "idiot" or "stupid" or "typing in Caps while making an agressive statement" is not really a nice way to comment on the posts.


What benefit does it serve? Does it get your point across? What point could that be?


I suppose it is like walking into a tea-party with a bunch of nice little old ladies. They are all sitting down in a nice white room with fine china and flowers. Suddenly you walk in with a sledgehammer. And pound it on the table. Glass shatters! There is a loud crash! Things fly everywhere! The women are startled...


Not nice. Not cool. Not justified.

[dmz]

well if you would please enlighten me as to the "true" republican views, i'd certainly be appreciative
oh, and the names of any currently living politicians who are "true" republicans.
oh, and one more thing, who was it that appointed you the keeper of the "true" republicanism?

my apologies to columbo

[SolitaryMan]

Bump for later.

[mil-vet]

Re: your post #16:Please don't be nasty.

Hold it! I didn't call you names, I did not use profanity, and I didn't attack you personally! I took one statement of many in your post which slammed conservatives, and I commented, and then, IN RED CAPS, stated that you had forgotten the barf alert! You DID leave off the barf alert.

Perhaps next time I will rephrase "It's really too bad you married the wrong person if this "outside of the marriage" thing is true for you!" to say "If one finds this 'outside of the marriage' thing to be true, then one married the wrong person"! Would this take the sting out of what I wrote, which was not meant to upset as much as to poke fun at the attempt to slam conservatives while setting the stage for the insertion of a BARF ALERT?

Didn't mean to piss you off, and I'm not upset with you going off on me, because heaven knows I've sure misinterpretted MY share of posts in my time!!

[Sungirl]

I took a test last year and it came out that I am a CENTRIST. In case anyone is interested....

[Malcolm]

If you can't tell a Democrat from a Republican, you're a flake. If more lazy conservatives put some effort into the GOP, it would be more conservative. Sitting out elections, voting for the LP (LOL, as if they could even spell conservative!), and gross exaggerations, (if not outright lies), are not productive pursuits. Bellyache 24/7 all you want; we will either live under the Dems or the GOP. If you want to make the GOP more conservative, work at it. If you just want to crap about it, you have your right, but empty hot air will not make a positive difference. If you voted the "party of principle" into power, (Gawd, the epitome of false advertising!), to STAY in power, they would morph into Dems in a NY minute. Plus, on many issues, the LP is more liberal than the Dems, (drugs, anti-Christian to the Nth power, etc.). But by all means, don't stop giving us you invaluable insights into what's wrong with the GOP. You flakes are a constant source of humor.....

[Rule of Law]

Gov. Wallace was right. There's not a nickle's worth of diffeence between the two of them.

[BeAChooser]

Truth is: liberals base their facts on feelings and conservatives base their feelings on facts.

Unless several well known Freepers are just pretending to be conservatives, it appears that die-hard Bush supporters are just as willing to turn a blind eye to facts as liberals ... if it suits their perception of what will help THEIR candidate and party in the NEXT election. I call them "move-on'ers" because they think that by ignoring serious crimes by democRATS (little things like election tampering, blackmail of Republicans and the murder of cabinet members), the GOP will be better off. Never mind what ignoring those crimes does to the rule of law, our freedoms and the long term future of this Republic.

[Governor William J. LePetomane]

How do you tell the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist?

The Socialist takes the dishes out of the sink before he takes a dump in it.

[Sungirl]

In Fact, here it is:

Quick Test

[retiredtexan]

East St Louis was a mean city some years ago, but now it's mostly just a poor city.

50 years ago it was filthy.

[PA_hayseed]

I believe the point of your post is to clarify the differences between Liberals and Conservatives. In my opinion this issue may be summed up as follows: Liberals (and Democrats in their party platform) advocate and promote murder (abortion), sloth & greed (the welfare state), envy (the class hatred of the "rich"), lust - if it "feels good do it" & homosexuality --- I could go on but all of the "seven deadly sins" are represented by the Liberal agenda.

The Conservative movement was started in the '40's as a reaction to the Liberal movement (Conservatives are Anti-liberal) by my definition, there is no grey area, one is either working for God (and promoting His will) i.e. "Conservative" or is working for Satan and promoting his agenda i.e. "Liberal".

[varon]

How to Tell a Democrat from a Republican

One wears a Union suit and the other a Business suit ;-)

[Dinsdale]

One wants to be your mother, the other wants to be your father.

[Goldsters]

Me too. (On that test) That puts us in the worst of all positions, though. We centrists get beat up by both sides because we don't have a "team" like the others do. LOL

[Sungirl]

Well...I just think we are honest with ourselves.

[Sungirl]

I was always an independent though....never followed the 'team'. I led my own team.

[MoscowMike]

Howdy

Vapid propaganda, utterly worthless except as an object lesson in communicating with strangers to the truth.

As such I thank you for providing a unsullied sample of the most vile abuse of objective reality I have ever read.

I will keep in on a shelf, preserved in formaldehyde, under the "goebbles meets stalin" information collection.

[Rule of Law]

But I thought PB's description of them as Two Wings of the SAME Bird of Prey to be more accurate and chilling.

But can a bird fly if it has two left wings?

[JSloth]

I also took the test and was rated a Centrist, but did you consider the source of the "test"? - Libertarian

[Goldsters]

Good point!

Unfortunately, a lot of voters see the parties just as the author described, and feel most comfortable when both sides are fighting and neither wins.

[stylin_geek]

I am a "right conservative." This is somewhat of a disappointment to me, as I thought I was further right than that.

[mil-vet]

If you can't tell a Democrat from a Republican, you're a flake.

What on earth are you talking about (your post #22)? I make one comment poking fun at a derogotory statement supposedly attributable (sp?) to conservatives, and I'm a flake? Hmmmm. Methinks you may have made the same mistake I make sometimes and misread or took me out of context, because, believe me, I can tell the difference between a liberal and an American after only a few moments of conversation.

At the risk of oversimplifying, liberals (democraps) are almost UNIVERSALLY intolerant and ill-informed, while conservatives actually have the open mind liberals claim THEY have, and are generally of the better informed in any given group.

Unlike a certain former POW from Arizona, my 21 years of active military duty (along with 15 years - and counting - of civilian gov't service) proved unequivocally to me that liberals are the domestic enemy being addressed each of the three times (once when I enlisted, once when I was commissioned, and once when I entered civilian service) I swore to uphold the constitution of the united states and defend it against enemies, foreign and domestic!

As one who has and does work where the rubber meets the road, I respectfully submit that you have erred grieviously in referring to me as a flake. As I said in another post, I'm not upset, though, because it's clear you misinterpretted something, and I've made the same mistake, so no problem, OK?

[Cold Heat]

The hysteria on this site of late has been entertaining but one needs to take a break from it on occasion.

I like a one month on and one month off senario. Seems to work for me, otherwise I lose my perspective.

It is time for my vacation because I now believe that if the election were re-voted today, Gore would win because Buchannon would get at least 200,000 votes from republicans. But that can't be! He did not get crap and for good reason before. Sheesh!

Gotta go! I'm having tremors again. See you after my break.

[WhiteGuy]

Bump for later

[mil-vet]

Re: your post #43 - "hysteria", roger!! I can clearly understand losing perspective since, especially after THIS thread, I apparently have done so - LOL!!

See you after the break....

Regards.

mil-vet sends

[muleboy]

DEMOCRATS enthusiastically propose statist power-grabs.

REPUBLICANS "reluctantly" acquiesce to them.

[WhiteGuy]

Nice article, funny but true stuff here.

The dems & the goper's both exist for the same reason....

Power. Cradle to grave, control over your life and...

most importantly your money.

The only difference is why.

[MotleyGirl70]

See this

[ampat]

BULLSEYE!

[LilFreep]

Thank you! That is kind of what I was looking for.