Hobbes - Leviathan Quoted

Personal Archives | 04-20-02 | PsyOp

[PsyOp]

Disclaimer: the posting of quotations should not be taken as a whole-hearted endorsement of the quotes themselves. Keep that in mind before igniting any flame-throwers. ;-)

[PsyOp]

I warned you.

[ancient_geezer]

One to add under Taxes:

It is fairer to tax people on what they extract from the economy, as roughly measured by their consumption, than to tax them on what they produce for the economy, as roughly measured by their income. - Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan. 1651

[Fish out of Water]

bttt

[PsyOp]

Thanks for the quote. I've added it to my data base.

[2Trievers]

Thanks for the warning PsyOp ... we'll not atttack the messenger!

[PsyOp]

I felt the disclaimer was needed after the near eruption of a flame-war over the Rouseau quotes I posted. Things settled down to a coherent discussion though. The last thing I want to see is any scorched earth on these threads.

[ancient_geezer]

The last thing I want to see is any scorched earth on these threads.

One of the nice things about the new format breaking threads up into manageable page sizes :O)

It doesn't take a week to download the last reply in a 600+ flamewar thread.

[2Trievers]

I'm glad you are doing this ... you are great! &;-)

[PsyOp]

Thanks. Comments like that make all the tedious html coding worth it.

[2Trievers]

And linking them on your homepage was good too! Carry on professor! LOL &;-)

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

For as to the strength of body, the weakest has strength enough to kill the strongest, either by secret machination or by confederacy with others that are in the same danger with himself. - Thomas Hobbes. Leviathan, 1651. (emphasis mine)

The emphasized sounds like Iago's role in Othello...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

It is fairer to tax people on what they extract from the economy, as roughly measured by their consumption, than to tax them on what they produce for the economy, as roughly measured by their income. - Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan. 1651

Sounds like he was making the case for a national sales tax or more of a flat tax. Somebody get Steve Forbes over here...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Disclaimer: the posting of quotations should not be taken as a whole-hearted endorsement of the quotes themselves.

Nor should the context be lost in relation to the totality of the work or the time in which the author had lived...

[weikel]

Cool.

[Pistias]

And law was brought into the world for nothing else but to limit the natural liberty of particular men in such manner as they might not hurt, but assist one another, and join together against a common enemy. - Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan, 1651.

i.e., nature, culminating in the conquering of human nature--cf. C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

[2Trievers]

No, this is guy you need ... Taxman! LOL

[Pistias]

Where there is no common power, there is no law, no injustice. - Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan. 1651.

i.e., there is no justice in nature, it is wholly constructed by compact.

[diotima]

Nasty, brutish and short.

[PsyOp]

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