'I Saw the [Catholic] Bishops Lie on the Stand' (former church insider helps sex abuse victims)

Associated Press ^ | 21 April 2002 | Collen Barry

[SkyPilot]

I know Tom, he is a helluva guy.

[rbmillerjr]

The truth is painful sometimes, but if the Church decides to attack this problem (which at this time they are not)the Church will:

1) come away repentant toward specific actions regarding the molestation of children.

2)Provide new policies that guarantee every allegation is turned over to civil law inforcement for a proper investigation

3)come away from this a stronger Church with renewed enthusiasm for Christ's and the Church's teachings.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

"There is more integrity in the leadership of the military than in the Roman Catholic Church," he said. "An officer does not walk past a problem."

Bishops and Cardinals are, first and foremost, politicians. That's how you claw your way up the ladder in a bureaucracy.

[sinkspur]

Any priest with an advanced canon law degree is a potential bishop. I've seen Doyle on MEET THE PRESS and a couple of cable shows, and he is definitely not going to tow anybody's party line, especially when he knows it ain't the truth.

He is very comfortable doing what he's doing, and the fact that the hierarchy condemns him in public must give him a great deal of solace.

Doyle knows where all the bodies are buried and how much more lies beneath the surface.

[VOA]

He is very comfortable doing what he's doing, and the fact that the hierarchy condemns
him in public must give him a great deal of solace.

I saw Doyle in an NBC DateLine report on the current crisis on Friday night.
Too bad he isn't running at least whatever part of the Catholic Church should
be protecting the innocents from the priests who have gone bad.

(Full disclosure: I'm not Catholic...and I feel for the average Catholic parishioner during
the current events...I just hope justice will be done fairly.)

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Bully for Father Doyle.

[SkyPilot]

Thanks - I will pass that on to Tom.

He did the Dateline interview in Boston about a month ago.

I have passed on some of what you discuss here on FreeRepublic. He was very interested, especially in some of your thoughts sinkspur.

[VOA]

I know Tom, he is a helluva guy.

Thanks for the comment.
As I watched him on DateLine, I kept waiting for "the other shoe to fall" in which
NBC would air some discrediting information about Doyle...but seems they
didn't find anything damaging enough to reveal.

I don't ask priests/clergy to be perfect, just fairly honest and real as humans.
Doyle struck me as that sort.
And the type of person who hasn't forgotten the verities about "the truth shall set you free"
and about the proper use of a millstone and the ocean for those who would abuse
children and young adults.

I hope Doyle keeps the faith. He is on a great crusade.

[Catholicguy]

>There is more integrity in the leadership of the military than in the Roman Catholic Church," he said.

Come on...He may indeed be a great guy, but I'd bet he'd like to take back this howler. Just think about the actions of the military during the Clinton administration, for starters....

[Catholicguy]

I mean, wasn't ol' Bubba, his ownself,"Commander in Chief?"

[SuziQ]

In 1984, Doyle was asked to prepare a response to a letter from the vicar-general of Louisiana informing the embassy that the Rev. Gilbert Gauthe was accused of sexually abusing five children.
"At that time," Doyle said, "I was still trying to protect the institutional church at the same time as the victims."...
The case became a watershed, marking the first time the U.S. church publicly confronted sex abuse of minors. Gauthe pleaded guilty to molesting 11 boys and admitted to victimizing dozens more.

I wonder why the article does NOT mention that the former Fr. Gauthe is sitting in Angola Prison in LA right now. When he comes up for parole, the liberal nuns argue for his release. His fellow priests always go to the Parole Board and argue AGAINST it!

[ventana]

Are you really blaming the US Military for Clintoon?

This should be interesting.

I am going to stand w a y over there for awhile...(Now where did I put those earplugs...)

[SkyPilot]

Clinton never represented integrity, or the military--ever.

[SkyPilot]

How much of this stuff is going on in the other religions?

I don't know. All humans are fallen creatures and sinful. We ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. If it wasn't so serious, God's son would not have had to endure torture and death to save the human race.

But, I believe it was Father McBrien who said that the priesthood served as a "cover" for many homosexuals. Two reasons--

1. Some thought celibacy would "cure" them of their lust towards other men and boys

2. The priestly vow of celibacy was an easy answer for questions as to their status: Question: "Why are you not married?"---answer - "Oh, I am studying to be a priest."

"Oh--OK--that makes sense."

Again, the above was offered by a priest.

[Catholicguy]

Agreed. That is why I suggested the gentleman might want to take back his remark regarding integrity and the military being superior to the church

[Catholicguy]

Are you really blaming the US Military for Clintoon?

No. I was citing the fact that Clintoon was the Commander in Chief, rendering the gentleman's point about the superiority of the military and its refusal to "walk past a problem" a howler.

[sinkspur]

How much of this stuff is going on in the other religions?

It goes on in all religions.

Baptist congregations typically strip their pastors of their positions immediately upon learning of any credible accusations of any kind of abuse, and the Southern Baptist Convention kickes them out of the convention.

Abusers are everywhere. How they're handled sends a signal to the perps and victims alike.

[sinkspur]

I was driving by a Protestant Church and a women was walking in with a very provocative outfit and I said to myself, "What the heck is she after?" Probably some action with the minister no doubt.

This is a bizarre statement.

And, if the minister had done something, would it have been the woman's fault?