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How the British fought terror in Jenin
Jerusalem Post ^ | April 18 2002 | Rafael Medoff

Posted on 04/21/2002 8:52:27 AM PDT by veronica

'Demolishing the homes of Arab civilians... Shooting handcuffed prisoners... Forcing local Arabs to test areas where mines may have been planted..."

These sound like the sort of accusations made by British and other European officials concerning Israel's recent actions in Jenin. In fact, they are descriptions from official British documents concerning the methods used by the British authorities to combat Palestinian Arab terrorism in Jenin and elsewhere in 1938.

The documents were declassified by London in 1989. They provide details of the British Mandatory government's response to the assassination of a British district commissioner by a Palestinian Arab terrorist in Jenin in the summer of 1938.

Even after the suspected assassin was captured (and then shot dead while allegedly trying to escape), the British authorities decided that "a large portion of the town should be blown up" as punishment. On August 25 of that year, a British convoy brought 4,200 kilos of explosives to Jenin for that purpose.

In the Jenin operation and on other occasions, local Arabs were forced to drive "mine-sweeping taxis" ahead of British vehicles in areas where Palestinian Arab terrorists were believed to have planted mines, in order "to reduce [British] landmine casualties."

The British authorities frequently used these and similar methods to combat Palestinian Arab terrorism in the late 1930s.

BRITISH forces responded to the presence of terrorists in the Arab village of Miar, north of Haifa, by blowing up house after house in October 1938.

"When the troops left, there was little else remaining of the once-busy village except a pile of mangled masonry," The New York Times reported.

The declassified documents refer to an incident in Jaffa in which a handcuffed prisoner was shot by the British police.

Under Emergency Regulation 19b, the British Mandate government could demolish any house located in a village where terrorists resided, even if that particular house had no direct connection to terrorist activity. Mandate official Hugh Foot later recalled: "When we thought that a village was harboring rebels, we'd go there and mark one of the large houses. Then, if an incident was traced to that village, we'd blow up the house we'd marked."

The High Commissioner for Palestine, Harold MacMichael, defended the practice: "The provision is drastic, but the situation has demanded drastic powers."

MacMichael was furious over what he called the "grossly exaggerated accusations" that England's critics were circulating concerning British anti-terror tactics in Palestine. Arab allegations that British soldiers gouged out the eyes of Arab prisoners were quoted prominently in the Nazi German press and elsewhere.

The declassified documents also record discussions among officials of the Colonial Office concerning the rightness or wrongness of the anti-terror methods used in Palestine. Lord Dufferin remarked: "British lives are being lost and I don't think that we, from the security of Whitehall, can protest squeamishly about measures taken by the men in the frontline."

Sir John Shuckburgh defended the tactics on the grounds that the British were confronted "not with a chivalrous opponent playing the game according to the rules, but with gangsters and murderers."

There were many differences between British policy in the 1930s and Israeli policy today, but one stands out - the British, faced with a level of Palestinian Arab terrorism considerably less lethal than that which Israel faces today, utilized anti-terror methods considerably harsher than those used by Israeli forces.


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1 posted on 04/21/2002 8:52:27 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
Good find.
2 posted on 04/21/2002 9:16:02 AM PDT by Lent
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To: veronica
This is quite an eye opening piece. Of course, NOW, the western societies are awash in liberal political correctness.

Fox News interviewed the new head of security at the Boston airport. He was enthusiastic about teaching airport personnel screening by behavior. This would not involve ethnic looks but behavior.

The ACLU objects to even this.

3 posted on 04/21/2002 9:21:45 AM PDT by Selara
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To: veronica
Arab allegations that British soldiers gouged out the eyes of Arab prisoners were quoted prominently in the Nazi German press and elsewhere.

Arabs always lie.

4 posted on 04/21/2002 9:24:50 AM PDT by ikka
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To: dennisw, sjackson, yehuda, alouette, catspaw, jimmyclyde, long cut, skempis, weikel, a_witness
Bump.
5 posted on 04/21/2002 9:28:05 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
Combining these methods with those of Black Jack Pershing may prove useful.

The difference, of course, is that the British did not have a pro-terrorist press to contend with--and the terrorists didn't have a PR agent.

--Boris

6 posted on 04/21/2002 9:30:53 AM PDT by boris
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To: veronica
It is interesting to note how weak the British have become.

It is also worth noting that in 1938 Britain was THE World's Greatest Superpower with an Empire upon which the Sun never set.

Today Britain is an Island where the Sun never shines.

7 posted on 04/21/2002 9:35:16 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: veronica
Nice post....I've read a little about the British strategy in Jenin before. Amazing how short the British press' memories are, no? The U.S. is having to deal with a situation that the British Empire stirred up and then pissed off and left when it was at its worst....deja vu...
8 posted on 04/21/2002 9:44:44 AM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: veronica
this was before 'enlightenment'; lighten up-it's ancient history....
10 posted on 04/21/2002 9:59:19 AM PDT by 1234
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To: monkeyshine, ipaq2000, Lent, veronica, Sabramerican, beowolf, Nachum, BenF, angelo, boston_libert
PING!!!!
11 posted on 04/21/2002 11:01:29 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: veronica
In the Jenin operation and on other occasions, local Arabs were forced to drive "mine-sweeping taxis" ahead of British vehicles in areas where Palestinian Arab terrorists were believed to have planted mines, in order "to reduce [British] landmine casualties."

That's an excellent idea.

12 posted on 04/21/2002 11:07:44 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: veronica
Sir John Shuckburgh defended the tactics on the grounds that the British were confronted "not with a chivalrous opponent playing the game according to the rules, but with gangsters and murderers."

Top-ho! Spiffing riposte, eh, what?

13 posted on 04/21/2002 11:09:53 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: ikka
THey always ascribe to others what they do themselves. Indian soldiers corpses, returned to India after the Kargil 99 Jihadi/Pakistani attack was repulsed, often had the word Allah carved on their chests/foreheads. In addition, eyeballs were gouged out and replaced with testicles with soldiers own penises stuffed into the their mouths.
14 posted on 04/21/2002 11:12:54 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: veronica
Nice catch.

Unfortunately, it won't have bother the lefty press, who hate the whole 'Empire' concept anyway and won't recognise this as an argument.

16 posted on 04/21/2002 11:53:01 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Da_Shrimp
Oops.. get rid of the 'have'
17 posted on 04/21/2002 11:53:49 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Common Tator
LOL. Well, they way they are behaving, it is rightly a place where "the Sun don't shine!" So the next time someone suggests that you "take that thing and stick it where the sun..."... you can think of Great Britain!!!

LOL I crack myself up!!!

18 posted on 04/21/2002 11:57:31 AM PDT by besieged
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To: .ilTli.
GREAT IDEA!!! Where the heck were you BEFORE 4/18??? Dang it, we could have used your vision!
19 posted on 04/21/2002 11:59:12 AM PDT by besieged
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To: Frances_Marion
The world media elites are interested in world INSTABILITY......
21 posted on 04/21/2002 12:43:34 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
Black Jack Pershing threatened to bury Moslems in pigs with graves... It worked. If a people are incapable of reason they must be dealt with by force.
22 posted on 04/21/2002 1:02:21 PM PDT by trevorjohnson
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To: veronica; dennisw
..... the British were confronted not with a chivalrous opponent playing the game according to the rules, but with gangsters and murderers.

Some things never change, eh?

23 posted on 04/21/2002 1:15:31 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: veronica
In fact, they are descriptions from official British documents concerning the methods used by the British authorities to combat Palestinian Arab terrorism in Jenin and elsewhere in 1938.

What would you say if Germany condemned terrorist acts against the Jews by the Palistinians, and the Palistiniasns responded by bringing up how Germany treated Jews in 1938?

24 posted on 04/21/2002 2:07:41 PM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: veronica
Excellent work veronica.
25 posted on 04/21/2002 2:30:41 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Common Tator
We cannot ignore the support we have gotten from Tony Blair, at great political cost to himself.
26 posted on 04/21/2002 2:48:36 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: dennisw
Well, as Lord Dufferin remarked: "British lives are being lost and I don't think that we, from the security of Whitehall, can protest squeamishly about measures taken by the men in the frontline."

Agreed.

27 posted on 04/21/2002 2:50:37 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: veronica; dennisw
This is going to come in handy! I just know it will.
28 posted on 04/21/2002 3:25:43 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: veronica
There were many differences between British policy in the 1930s and Israeli policy today, but one stands out - the British, faced with a level of Palestinian Arab terrorism considerably less lethal than that which Israel faces today, utilized anti-terror methods considerably harsher than those used by Israeli forces.

It didn't work for the Brits - why should it work for the Israelis?

29 posted on 04/21/2002 6:37:20 PM PDT by jo6pac
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To: ikka
Their promises atre the hope of fools.
30 posted on 04/21/2002 6:52:48 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: .ilTli.
sounds good. what else can be done with terrorists? reform.
31 posted on 04/21/2002 7:10:55 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: swarthyguy
"In addition, eyeballs were gouged out and replaced with testicles with soldiers own penises stuffed into the their mouths."

And they did exactly that to the Jewish defenders of the Etzion Block in 1948.

I can't describe what they did the the women but you can imagine.

Must be SOP for Muslims

32 posted on 04/21/2002 7:20:18 PM PDT by anapikoros
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
It appears that you miss the point, or hope we will. The point being that Jews in Germany were not the savages these Jenin "victims" were then or now.
33 posted on 04/21/2002 8:07:29 PM PDT by SKempis
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To: veronica
BTTT. The Israeli's are the most chivalrous, patient people on the earth for not eradicating the Pali's. Their own aversion to being tarred with accusations of genocide is being used against them...Their response...risk their soldiers lives(and lose some) in house to house hellfighting to save every noncombatant Pali they can identify...

I salute the IDF. No sleep for terrorists...ever.

34 posted on 04/21/2002 9:15:19 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: veronica;jmurphy4413;maica;Freee-dame;harpseal
Great find!

"The more things change...."

35 posted on 04/21/2002 9:35:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: jo6pac
It didn't work for the Brits - why should it work for the Israelis?

Because for the Israelis, this is their home. The Brits were just trying to save their asses and let someone else deal with the problem. Israel has nowhere else to go. So... if needed, they will simply pull their "MASADA" complex out and turn the entire place into a radioactive wasteland... only it won't be only Palestine... it will also include Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, and any other piece of sh** dictatorship within 2000 miles.

And if they are smart, they will also include most of the EU contingent of sorry ass licking "states". So, you can see that after this treatment, there won't be anyone left to rewrite the history of the great Arab victory over the Jews. And there the problem will end.

36 posted on 04/21/2002 11:40:44 PM PDT by besieged
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To: anapikoros
Sounds like you know your history. I wasn't aware of this. Where was the Erzion Block? and 1948? So this was after Israel had been established? Reminds of that picture of the man hanging upside down in Ramallah, i think; one of the pictures showed his stomach being mutilated - apparently after he was dead.
37 posted on 04/22/2002 9:03:33 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Etzion Block was a group of 4 settlements halfway between Jerusalem and Hebron. Over-run by the Arabs during the '48 War of Independence all the civilians were killed after they surrendered.

You saw what the Pali's did to one of their own accused of collaborating so you can imagine what they did to the Jewish men and women they captured. Believe me, I would rather kill myself than fall into the hands of these animals.

38 posted on 04/22/2002 10:53:32 PM PDT by anapikoros
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