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Ruth Christine Admits 'Mistakes' in Children's Kidnapping
kgw.com ^ | 4/18/02 | ABE ESTIMADA

Posted on 04/21/2002 9:28:42 PM PDT by RGSpincich

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To: Spiff
Having laws against kidnapping and carjacking only offends anarchists and criminals.
41 posted on 04/22/2002 11:40:05 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: RGSpincich
instead of dealing with CPS in the proper fashion.

What, pray tell, is your defition of the "proper fashion" to deal with people who steal your children at gunpoint?

Just how should we submit to tyranny? Do you also lick their jack-boots while they're carting your children away?

You know, this nation through off a tyrant in 1776 named King George. Can you name some of the things he did that were actually worse then stealing people's children and destroying families at gunpoint based upon the weakest of accusations, disregard for individual rights, due process, justice, and the rule of law?

You are so naive on this subject that it boggles the mind that you're here stating an opinion. I've seen these jackals in action, I've seen them carting crying children way from their families for no reason without proper court authority. I've seen stuff that makes a grown man cry - and once the tears are spent, it makes a grown man downright angry and an activist. A whole army of activists against the CPS jackals and jack-booted thugs is growing in this nation and its best recruiters are the CPS agencies themselves. As they trample upon the rights of extended family members and neighbors, more and more people are being brought into the cause.

But, because you personally have not seen it, you naively believe it doesn't happen. Have you ever seen a meteor actually strike the earth? Does that mean that meteors never strike the earth?

42 posted on 04/22/2002 11:40:59 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff
Do you also lick their jack-boots while they're carting your children away?

I have seen the system work fairly and badly. The Christines needed counseling. So do you.

43 posted on 04/22/2002 12:01:26 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
And? What does that have to do with an alleged skull fracture?
44 posted on 04/22/2002 12:03:03 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: f.Christian
I think it's pronounced Kristeen, not Christ-een.
45 posted on 04/22/2002 12:09:10 PM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: Xenalyte
Dahmer not damer!
46 posted on 04/22/2002 12:11:06 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Demidog
You tell me. Ruth said Brian admitted to the police that he disciplined the child and she fell down the stairs. Nobody said he admitted to administering a skull fracture.
47 posted on 04/22/2002 12:16:44 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
You seem like a tim mcveigh--overeacting aren't YOU!
48 posted on 04/22/2002 12:26:56 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Roscoe
When the van stopped, Brian Christine held a gun to a state worker’s head...

Lock him up, throw away the key.

But Brian didn't have a jail cell handy.... :-)

49 posted on 04/22/2002 12:35:06 PM PDT by lowbridge
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But Brian didn't have a jail cell handy.... :-)

He does now. :-)

50 posted on 04/22/2002 12:44:06 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Boscoe...the stephen king clown---kujo!
51 posted on 04/22/2002 12:47:25 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: RGSpincich; 2sheep; babylonian
“Our hope is that the jury is going to see this young couple for what they really are – a set of parents that have been wronged by a rogue state agency,” Steele said. “That’s exactly what I’m willing to call Services to Children and Families in Oregon. That’s what CPS in Oregon is called. They change the name every time they get a bad enough reputation. They give it a new name so as to evade that reputation.”

Almost like shape-shifters.

52 posted on 04/22/2002 12:52:49 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: f.Christian
Christine Defense Fund
P.O. Box 1255
Sagle Idaho, 83860

Got any recyclable cans?

53 posted on 04/22/2002 12:56:09 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
I like to work with the fund and court of no appeals!
54 posted on 04/22/2002 1:11:48 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: RGSpincich
I don't know enough about this case to make a judgement either way, but does anyone have any information about the case in Texas where CPS defied a court order to return children?

It would be awful hard not to go postal if a government agency started pulling garbage like that. Even after you got your kids back, the bureaucrats who took them and refused to give them back might not be safe.

55 posted on 04/22/2002 1:12:23 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: f.Christian
No cans? Then how about pieces of aluminum foil or bits of string?
56 posted on 04/22/2002 1:22:00 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: RGSpincich
I have seen the system work fairly and badly. The Christines needed counseling. So do you.

I'm sure you think I do need counseling. Once you and your brownshirt friends have your way, people like me will have to report to the camps for re-education.

Don't expect me or any other true, patriotic American to roll over to your tyrant masters, Torie. You and the sheeple like you might hold your freedoms so cheap, but don't ever expect us to submit.

57 posted on 04/22/2002 1:25:36 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff
Anarchists and criminals might consider laws against kidnapping and carjacking tyranny.
58 posted on 04/22/2002 1:32:05 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Spiff
You and the sheeple like you might hold your freedoms so cheap, but don't ever expect us to submit.

Yeah right, you da' man, Biff.

59 posted on 04/22/2002 6:10:03 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Spell Correctly
Spell Correctly member disruptor/shill since March 30th, 2002

Did you even bother to read this article? You obviously weren't around when the case started (perhaps you're one of those people who rely on the mainstream media for your facts).

60 posted on 04/23/2002 7:28:08 AM PDT by meadsjn
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