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WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/22/02 | Barbara Simpson

[Egg]

Bump for a great article. Feminism is just another in a long line of humanist lies. Sure, Western (Christian) culture hasn't made for a perfect society yet, but it sure beats anything else that's ever been tried.

[weikel]

I'm against it women generally prefer their emotion to their logic and prefer freedom over security. If there were an incorruptable test for logic and intelligence then I would subject every potential voter to that test but since there is not I'm against the 19th.

[weikel]

I was but then Mom got me a car LOL and I still got to go to college. Still feel bad for my Father over it though.

[Wphile]

Now, that's not necessarily true. Liberal women prefer their emotions. Conservative women prefer logic and use reason just like men do.

However, I must admit, after all those women went 'ga-ga' over Gore's mauling of his wife, Tipper, at the Democratic convention, I was one of the first calling for the repeal of the 19th amendment! LOL!

[Nataku X]

I'm 20 just like Weikel is, graduating from college in a few weeks & getting my MS this fall...

I have a guy and we love each other dearly. But I made the decision to not have to have sex until my wedding night--I've seen too many of my friends break off their relationships/engagements when they had formerly been absolutely sure about marriage. "Oh, we're going to marry someday anyway..." Pardon the language, but big BS! If a guy breaks up with you over not having extramartial sex, he's not worth it!

Reading stories like yours give me confidence that I am making the right decision. All my friends seem to be roomming together with their boyfriends now, screw marriage until you're at least 25 years old. There is incredible pressure on me (and everyone else of my generation) to just live together with my significant other.

Thank you. Spouses like you and your wife provide a shining example to our generation that the don't-have-sex-until-marriage life is indeed still possible.

[weikel]

She has harsher rhetoric about marriage then I do.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Is that why you don't marry your girlfriend? Because you think it will end in divorce?

Or do you just not love her enough to marry her?

Or is this entire setup her idea?

[weikel]

What you say about conservative vs liberal women is technically true but I maintain that some quirk of neurobiology made women more likely to prefer their emotions to their logic so by mass enfranchising women you create more illogical then logical voters.

[weikel]

It is her idea actually.

[weikel]

But generally speaking I would not marry for that reason not without ensuring that my property and any children would end up with me.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Do you love her or are you going along for all the freebies?

[weikel]

I would say both LOL.

[Wphile]

It's probably that little quirk having to do with the ability to conceive and bare children.

However, men are hardly the sole possessors of logic and reason. Seems the world was pretty screwed up for many, many years when men controlled all the institutions.

And sheesh...look at the Arab world. Women don't have much of a say there and well, just look at it. For some reason, I don't think you'd be much less cynical in THAT environment!

[GiovannaNicoletta]

It probably won't work out; try not to get her pregnant.

There is not hurt in the world like when you have a child from whom you are forcibly separated. You should know that there probably will be no respect and real love in this arrangement and neither of you will feel any real committment or obligation to each other.

Good luck, but I think you will emerge from this jaded and cynical about relationships. It's too bad your girlfriend doesn't have enough respect for you or herself to insist that you get married. Just don't have kids.

[SuziQ]

Only crackwhores get knocked up

Au contraire, young man. My niece got pregnant WHILE SHE WAS ON THE PILL!! They are not infallible, you know ( unless held tightly between the knees). And no, she was not a crackwhore, just silly enough to believe the guy was 'in love' with her so she had sex with him. When she told him she was pregnant, he was ok with it for about 2 weeks, then he told her he wasn't ready to be a father, and she should get an abortion. She was devastated, but had the baby anyway, a lovely girl who is now almost 15.

[Nataku X]

Feminism has been wonderful for men. Men do not carry nearly as many emotional consequences from sex, they have a lower chance of getting diseases & of course, they don't get pregnant. Today, the responsibility of pregnancy is totally on females.

Feminism--which played a large role in making cohabitating socially acceptable--has benefited men much more than women for the above reasons. Plus, now men are much less inclined to make a commitment--like the author said, why buy the cow when the milk is free? Now guys don't even to have to say the "l" word (love) for what they really want. Your girlfriend may like all this, but as other posters have pointed out, when she's 25 she won't like it nearly as much when she wants to settle down & no one will look her way as anything more serious than "free milk".

I'll spare you the lecture on cohabitation; it's your life. The original point of the article was that the feminism/sexual revolution benefited men greatly and at the same time shortchanged females.

OK, this is subject-changing & a bit of unrelevant ranting because I'm in a romantic mood, but I am so lucky to have a guy who is not afraid of commitment. He never even flirted with me or made any kind of move. We were best friends for a while and then he said "I love you" out of the blue. :) I've dated around enough to know that it's a very rare thing in this generation for a man our age to not to be afraid to love.

[Wphile]

...I think you will emerge from this jaded and cynical about relationships.

ROFLOL! You don't think he's that way already?

[weikel]

Well the Arab World is a special case pssst... they are all gay I guess its because they never get to look at women. Ive heard this from guys on FR who used to work there. Gay men often inherit the illogical thinking of women. There were some Matriachal societies in the ancient world but they tended to get conquered by the more efficient and successful Patriachal ones the Celts are a good example.

[weikel]

Au Contraire the responsibility is greatly on the man in case of pregnancy in Massachussetts you can be made to pay child support even if you aren't the actual father( no I am not kidding).

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Yeah, I do, but there's something about experiencing it for yourself that pretty much sets the cynicism in stone for life.

Know what I mean?