Dennis Ross on Fox News Sunday (What Arafat Turned Down)

Fox News ^ | 4-12-02

[SJackson]

BRIT HUME, FOX NEWS: Former Middle East envoy Dennis Ross has worked to achieve Middle East peace throughout President Clinton's final days in office. In the months following Clinton's failed peace summit at Camp David, U.S. negotiators continued behind-the-scenes peace talks with the Palestinians and Israelis up until January 2001, and that followed Clinton's presentation of ideas at the end of December 2000.

[VOA]

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

This is a thread to bookmark for sure!

Great Maps -- Great Interview -- Great comments!

It was an incredible interview!

After the weekend protest in Washington and elsewhere this seems to be the issue for the anti america crowd in the USA.

Here are some facts to arm oneself with.

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[tictoc]

Thanks for posting this.

I will copy and forward this to a bunch of people.

You can't just assume that the truth speaks for itself, we have to make it known.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

ping for the indexing crew!

[Fish out of Water]

bttt

[Brian Allen]

..... the main-stream media didn't get tagged "lame-stream media" for no reason. They are either a bunch of lazy, ignorant, slough's or they are the biggest anti-semites of modern time. Perhaps both.

Both.

The world's media are almost to a man evil personified and are either Joeseph Goebbelsian promotors of and advocates for an elitist totalitarian agenda and/or are willing to say anything and to promulgate any lie uttered by any petty dictator and/or terrorist in order to gain access to the area occupied and/or controlled by the dictator and/or terrorist for the purpose, only, of driving the bottom line.

Intellectually and morally bankrupt bottom feeding bastards, for every last one for whom elevation to "slut" would demand a too-hard socially-upward leap.

[BeAChooser]

the main-stream media didn't get tagged "lame-stream media" for no reason. They are either a bunch of lazy, ignorant, slough's or they are the biggest anti-semites of modern time.

Oh its much worse than that. They inherently hate what America stands for. Just as they won't ever mention what Arafat turned down, they had no problem SUPPORTING a president and associates who committed just about every crime you can name. They didn't bother to inform the American public about even a fraction of the allegations, which include election tampering and murder. Try and find a single lamestream media outlet that mentioned the Riady non-refund. You won't. Try and find a single lamestream media outlet that mentioned the opinions of the military pathologists in the Ron Brown case or what the x-ray of his skull appeared to show. You won't. The lamestream press is, in a word, controlled.

[knews_hound]

Bump for the Pali apologists out there to learn something.

I know, I know, like the facts will ever get in the way of this bunch.

Cheers,

knews hound

[ex-snook]

"One, the Palestinians point out that this was never put on paper, this offer. Why not? "

If the offer was that good it would have been shown so the world could see. I wonder what was said about the real bone of contention - the settlements. Yes Clinton was rushed to get back to Monica but many moons have passed by and Ross could have prepared the final offer map. No one would believe Arafat's version (dictated).

In the computer world when something is advertised as very good but isn't produced, it is called vaporware.

[SJackson]

By the way, your lower right map, they would have gotten all the grey areas, no cantons, no roads cutting the territory, and no Israelis along the Jordan River. And though it would have been a matter to discuss, the settlers in those areas would have been sol.

[Sir Gawain]

[dennisw]

By the way, your lower right map, they would have gotten all the grey areas, no cantons, no roads cutting the territory,

Even the cantons in the earlier plans would have disappeared as Pallies demonstrated peaceful intent. First auntonomy then Palestinian statehood.. ....Instead the lesson of Oslo is that the Pallies main goal is to arm themselves any which way they can and make war against Israel.

[dennisw]

Dennis Ross worked under Bush Senior and Clinton traitor.

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[BrooklynGOP]

ping!

[sleavelessinseattle]

I KNEW Arafat was offered part of Jerusalem. Every piece of information I retained about these negotiations claimed that Jerusalem should never have been part of the exchange because it was a loaded issue. I felt the Israelis had totally redeemed themselves for whatever militancy they had been accused of in the past with this deal. Now I find out they went even farther than I had heard...

G*d D*mn Arafat to the lowest Hell.

[PhilDragoo]

I saw this interview of Dennis Ross by Brit Hume.

I was impressed by Ross' clear recitation of events, and how he communicated his anger at Arafat for not only refusing the offer, but refusing to make a counter-offer.

When someone so clear-speaking and even-handed as Ross becomes obviously irritated, it is a large-lettered sign that someone has been an ass.

He mentioned the "thousands of hours of talks" and one can plainly see that he was no doubt one talking for thousands of hours--who would have the stainless steel stomach for that?

It was made abundantly clear that Arafat is a Jew-killer, not a peace-maker. And that Powell's urging Israel to release Arafat is exactly 180 degrees ass backwards.

Arafat cannot be party to any progress--which is not to say that progress is possible in the lifetime of anyone living.

[SJackson]

The mistake was redeeming Arafat from Libya in 93. He represented no one. In those days there was a semblance of order in the territories. In the hopes of creating a state, Israel turned over jurisdiction to all those drunken, crazy cowboys in the old movies, with that evil trail boss in command. But the Marshall wasn't allowed in town, and Yasser ran off with the herd and the gold.

Can you imagine John Wayne negotiating with Arafat?

[SJackson]

I listened to it too. He was very impressive, and he served effectively through two very different administrations. I wish he was still in our Nations service.

[Samwise]

OUCH!

Bookmarked for later reference.

[sleavelessinseattle]

Was it in "The Searchers" where he shot the eyes out of a dead commanche warrior because of their belief that a blinded soul would be cursed to wander between the four winds. The DUKE.