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Text of Pope's Address to U.S. Cardinals
MSNBC ^ | 23 April A.D. 2002 | Pope John Paul II

Posted on 04/23/2002 7:18:12 AM PDT by history_matters

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To: Catholicguy;Askel5
Many are the orthodox Catholics who have explained why it is apt to change "for many" to "for all" from Fr. William Most, to Catholic Answers to Roman Theological Forum..if my memory was better I could list many more (I do prefer the 1962 Roman Missal btw)

It has to do with the sufficiency of the Sacrifice. Jesus died so that all could be forgiven. Unfortunately, the Sacrifice will only be efficacious for some. But that does not mean that the Sacrifice is limited to "many."

SD

61 posted on 04/24/2002 6:41:56 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Slyfox
This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Happy are those who are called to his supper.

Lord I am not worthy to recieve you, but only say the word and I shall be healed.

I looked at the missalette years after Vatican II. They demoted our 'sins' to a collective 'sin'.

I think you might be reading a bit much here. "Sin" is a word that can work either singular or plural. There is no confusion in my mind here anyway, that there is only one sin in the world.

And, they changed the original, "but only say the word and my SOUL shall be healed". The centurian who coined that prayer was not asking for a healing of his body, which is inferred, but rather a healing of the soul. Now, this may not seem like much, but that's the point. The changes were subtle enough to go unnoticed. Our Mass which had been with us for centuries upon centuries was given a whitewash, still holy though, but not nearly as beautiful.

While I am no fan of ICEL and their infidelity to the Latin, I find this objection of yours amusing as well. Nobody is imagining that we are praying at this moment for our bodies to be healed. LOL

SD

62 posted on 04/24/2002 6:47:24 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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And, they changed the original, "but only say the word and my SOUL shall be healed". The centurian who coined that prayer was not asking for a healing of his body, which is inferred, but rather a healing of the soul. Now, this may not seem like much, but that's the point. The changes were subtle enough to go unnoticed. Our Mass which had been with us for centuries upon centuries was given a whitewash, still holy though, but not nearly as beautiful.

While I am no fan of ICEL and their infidelity to the Latin, I find this objection of yours amusing as well. Nobody is imagining that we are praying at this moment for our bodies to be healed. LOL"

I am at work and I do not have a Bible in front of me but I do recall Paul writing to Corinth and mentioning that some are sick because they do not go to Communion.

In any event, anima mea ought to be translated "my soul" and the ICEL simple excised it. I have never heard that explained.....

63 posted on 04/24/2002 10:45:38 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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