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palestinian (terrorist) Fighter even admits - NO MASSACRE IN JENIN - My Title
CNN ^ | April 22, 2002 | CNN

Posted on 04/24/2002 7:07:22 AM PDT by Brytani

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Mardawi spoke enthusiastically about Israel's decision to send in infantry: "It was like hunting ... like being given a prize."

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- A senior member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad who surrendered to Israeli forces in Jenin described the battle as "a very hard fight" in which both sides took on casualties, but he said he didn't see "tens of people" killed by the Israeli army.


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I can't believe CNN would even post this but it should say alot that a terrorist captured in Palestine even says he didn't see a massacre.
1 posted on 04/24/2002 7:07:22 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: Brytani
bttt !
2 posted on 04/24/2002 7:12:56 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Brytani
everyone should check out this link:

http://www.etherzone.com/2002/jenin.shtml

Aerial photographs of the Jenin camp, with zooms on the combat area. Puts it in perspective like no other pics i've seen.

Look at these pictures, and try to tell me it was a massacre.

What a pathetic, horrible world we live in, where the UN needs to send a 'team to investigate the massacre' over something like this, while thousands are actually massacred for real around the world, while no one gives a damn.

I mean, we landed on the moon a LONG LONG TIME AGO, yet most people still don't have the intelligence to see that they are being brainwashed to hate jews by endless propeganda, which is more commonly known as the international media.

I don't get it.

3 posted on 04/24/2002 7:15:54 AM PDT by solmar_israel
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To: tomkat
Hmmmm...I wonder if the "freepers" who spent so much time "documenting" the "atrocities" by Israel will take issue with Mardawi? They posted a lot of links without facts and called it truth...so I guess this guy who was actually there was lying. Or worse...the dreaded Israeli mind benders have brain washed him!!!
4 posted on 04/24/2002 7:17:34 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Brytani
I can't believe CNN would even post this but it should say alot that a terrorist captured
in Palestine even says he didn't see a massacre.


Actually, this was an accidental display of hubris by some of the folks at CNN.
They want to show that they, CNN, can actually prove there was a massacre...and that this
poor, traumatized terrorist is just confused. Besides, he's not a professionally-trained
journalist.

Actually, the Palestinian terrorists are just as funny as the Nazis.
They had most of the press (and a lot of the Western world) believing they were
massacred.

Now their hyper-macho-pride in killing will have them "spilling their guts"
to show they were the killing machines...and that those pansy-@ss Israeli soldiers can't push
them around!

Keep talking for the camera, terrorists! Good job!
5 posted on 04/24/2002 7:23:34 AM PDT by VOA
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To: All
Of course CNN would post this story. Another story was reported this morning on another news site that The Palestinians had reported thousands killed, civilians babies, women!! Not so says Israel, we took pictures of everything, and NO, yea NO civilians were killed. The film is there to prove it.
6 posted on 04/24/2002 7:23:34 AM PDT by cousair
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To: Brytani
Another Muslim psycho killer who in the end was too chickensh#t to martyr himself......by going down fighting against the IDF.

He surrendered.

7 posted on 04/24/2002 7:24:02 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Brytani,monkeyshine, ipaq2000, Lent, veronica, Sabramerican, beowolf, Nachum, BenF, angelo, bosto
Mardawi said he and other Palestinian fighters had expected Israel to attack with planes and tanks. He spoke enthusiastically about Israel's decision to send in infantry.

"It was like hunting ... like being given a prize. I couldn't believe it when I saw the soldiers," he said. "The Israelis knew that any soldier who went into the camp like that was going to get killed."

 

 

 

If you want on or off me Israel/MidEast/Islamic Jihad ping list please let me know.  Via Freepmail is best way.............

alt

8 posted on 04/24/2002 7:26:57 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: solmar_israel
What a pathetic, horrible world we live in, where the UN needs to send a 'team to investigate the massacre' over something like this, while thousands are actually massacred for real around the world, while no one gives a damn.

Amen! But then again what do we expect from an organization that virtually ignores Muslim extremism and murder and genocide in places like Sudan, Sierra Leone and Indonesia while calling Zionism racism. Pathetic & horrible are excellent terms.

9 posted on 04/24/2002 7:33:18 AM PDT by agrace
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To: rvm
ping
10 posted on 04/24/2002 7:33:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: NELSON111
it'll likely get spun, as others have already mentioned,
that this little weasel was a sellout, or tortured, or an
IDF plant all along, or traumatized by his daddy, yada, yada, yada ...

Allah your base belong to Jooos ....

11 posted on 04/24/2002 7:34:12 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Brytani
We'd all be better off if there fewer of these Philistinian freedom fighters around to bomb innocent civilians and provide a distraction from our real target - the spread of militant Islam worldwide through terror.
12 posted on 04/24/2002 7:34:29 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
We need to investigate why the U.N. is only interested in investigating Palestinian lies about "massacres" that never happened, rather than investigating Arafat's terror network that intentionally slaughters Israeli civilians at every opportunity. The hypocricy stinks so bad. It is disgraceful that the U.S. supports this U.N. crap.
13 posted on 04/24/2002 7:39:31 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Brytani
I hope he is being provided with extra security. The Palestinians will want to execute him for talking. I'm surprised that CNN would show his face and give his name.
14 posted on 04/24/2002 7:45:57 AM PDT by twigs
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To: tomahawk
ditto
bump
15 posted on 04/24/2002 7:46:25 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Brytani
I gaurentee the was no massacre, but all these murders lie; I don't beleive a word of this gangster.
16 posted on 04/24/2002 7:52:44 AM PDT by week 71
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To: Brytani
Your title is utterly misleading and dishonest. He didn't say there was no massacre in Jenin. Here is the relevant passage:

Asked about the allegations of a massacre, Mardawi said, "By my own standard, what happened there was a massacre. But if you are asking, 'Did I see tens of people killed?' Frankly, no. In my group, we were in an area with no other people. Three fighters with me were killed. Later when we started to move from place to place, we saw destroyed houses and could smell bodies."

17 posted on 04/24/2002 7:53:49 AM PDT by ThreeOfSeven
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To: ThreeOfSeven
I'm dissappointed that the Israelis let some of the pali terrorists escaped. I hope they'll be more thourough next time.
18 posted on 04/24/2002 7:57:44 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: ThreeOfSeven
The relevant statement, in case you missed it, is this - "'Did I see tens of people killed?' Frankly, no."

Bulldozing houses does not a massacre make and no amount of lies told by Palestinians will change this. Where are the mass graves even the UN can't find? Where are the thousands of bodies nobody seems to be able to find (that is until Arafat has the chance to plant them). Fighters killed, that's a part of war. Don't play the game unless you're willing to die. Fighters being killed does not a massacre make.

19 posted on 04/24/2002 7:59:43 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: Brytani
I don't think this will get in the way of the UN making the determination they desire...
20 posted on 04/24/2002 8:04:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ThreeOfSeven
He didn't say there was no massacre in Jenin

Of course there was a massacre, 3oh7. We believe you. Your whole world would crumble if there wasn't.

21 posted on 04/24/2002 8:05:13 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: psyops; Colorado Tanker; Libertina; pissed off janitor; happygrl;sjackson;Proudeagle...
Ping! Can't believe CNN let this slip through the Spin catchers.
22 posted on 04/24/2002 8:05:50 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: solmar_israel;all
-WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT JENIN--
23 posted on 04/24/2002 8:06:28 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Brytani
i humbly submit that you're wasting your time with ThreeofSeven.

check the links above and below.
sounds like a salaried individual.

eg, from the 'wisdom' of 3/7:

If you want an analogy to WWII then the Israeli occupation is to Palestinians as the German occupation was to Poles.

bon apetit !

24 posted on 04/24/2002 8:11:43 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Brytani
Israel Defense Forces spokesmen have said that the decision to use infantry to spearhead the attack – rather than using air power and artillery – stemmed from a desire to limit civilian casualties, even at the risk of higher IDF casualties.

This was a stupid military tactic! Sharon should do as we did in Afghanistan. Declare a war on terrorists and proclaim that you are either with us or against us. Then go out and bomb the hell out of any resistance we encounter. Human lives are too dear to sacrifice to the Crazy Mo followers. Israel should do as we do, not as we say!

25 posted on 04/24/2002 8:11:53 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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To: Brytani
NY POST: THE MASSACRE THAT WASN'T
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/667529/posts
Peres: "there wasn't a house that wasn't booby-trapped."

WSJ: THE MASSACRE THAT WASN'T - Part II
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669632/posts
Palestinians drop their hyped-up "massacre" charges

Steyn: It's time to snap out of Arab fantasy land
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669063/posts
Some great Oriana Fallaci quotes/links as well

Steyn: The UN is running out of blind eyes to turn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669411/posts
Interesting link on UN backpedaling

Reporters Back Down From Jenin "Massacre" Reports
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/668509/posts
World press forced to face the truth: No Massacre

Atrocities of the British Press
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669206/posts
Huge amounts of ink devoted to unverified Pali tales
26 posted on 04/24/2002 8:14:19 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: Brytani
i'm quite sure we ALL remember those darling little 10yo polish bomb-belt kamikaze ??
27 posted on 04/24/2002 8:15:06 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Brytani
Bulldozing houses does not a massacre make

That depends on whether bodies are found in the rubble of the bulldozed houses.

28 posted on 04/24/2002 8:16:09 AM PDT by ThreeOfSeven
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To: tomkat
it'll likely get spun, as others have already mentioned, that this little weasel was a sellout, or tortured, or an IDF plant all along, or traumatized by his daddy, yada, yada, yada ...

They will do a Linda Tripp on him.

29 posted on 04/24/2002 8:16:09 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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To: Brytani
Israel Defense Forces spokesmen have said that the decision to use infantry to spearhead the attack – rather than using air power and artillery – stemmed from a desire to limit civilian casualties, even at the risk of higher IDF casualties.

Yeah, CNN is putting this story here, but don't hold your breath while waiting to see this on tv.

No wonder, this Palestinian was amazed to see the IDF forces advancing on foot; it never occurs to those Palestinian murderers to attempt to limit the killing of noncombatants. Prayers for the brave Israeli soldiers.

BTW, if the Pali quoted here is released, I wonder how long it will be before he is hung upside down in the street and eviscerted like some of his former brothers in arms.

30 posted on 04/24/2002 8:17:39 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: solmar_israel
I don't get it.

Unfortunately, you do. Crying damn shame is what it is.

It does seem, thought, that part of the world is beginning to wake-up from the hypnotic haze.

31 posted on 04/24/2002 8:18:58 AM PDT by d4now
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To: Brytani
Israel Defense Forces spokesmen have said that the decision to use infantry to spearhead the attack - rather than using air power and artillery - stemmed from a desire to limit civilian casualties, even at the risk of higher IDF casualties.

This is one reason I tend not to believe the massacre stories. (The other reason is that the Palestinians have lied too often and too easily in the past.)

32 posted on 04/24/2002 8:19:28 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: solmar_israel
What a pathetic, horrible world we live in, where the UN needs to send a 'team to investigate the massacre' over something like this, while thousands are actually massacred for real around the world, while no one gives a damn.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Muslim fanatics are massacreing Christians all around the world, and are absolutely salivating at the prospect of massacreing as many Jews as possible.

My Christian tongue will hold back what I *really* want to say about the UN and its pathetic silence in the face of real atrocity. The most we can get is a "tsk-tsk, this is too bad" about the killing of Christians and Jews, while they scream in horror at the sight of armed Jews defending themselves. What an absolute, unmitigated disgrace the UN has become.

33 posted on 04/24/2002 8:20:11 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: NELSON111
"I wonder if the "freepers" who spent so much time "documenting" the "atrocities" by Israel will take issue with Mardawi"?

Highly doubtful...it would disrupt their own personal agenda.

34 posted on 04/24/2002 8:20:51 AM PDT by hope
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To: Brytani
JERUSALEM (CNN) -- A senior member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad who surrendered to Israeli forces in Jenin described the battle as "a very hard fight" in which both sides took on casualties, but he said he didn't see "tens of people" killed by the Israeli army.

Now tell that to the left wing anti-American peacenicks. That should really ruin their day. All that protesting done in vain. *sigh*

35 posted on 04/24/2002 8:21:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: tomkat
I agree with your assesment, I have seen the "person" on and off for awhile, seems to be a one note singer.

knews hound

36 posted on 04/24/2002 8:25:18 AM PDT by knews_hound
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To: knews_hound
pali shill ID bump ...

LOL

37 posted on 04/24/2002 8:32:09 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat
I've found, those who absolutely hate the thought of Israel having the right to exist, or basically hate Jews, or love terrorists, whatever reason they have for believing every bit of propoganda that comes out of the middle east are worthless when it comes to debate.

Personally, I think Israel has been wrong in some of her actions, yet the anti-Israel bias in the UN, with human rights groups, supporters of Muslim states, Europe, etc etc is so clear I tend to believe what Israel says first, before anyone else. Just nice to have confirmation when I'm right in my beliefs.

38 posted on 04/24/2002 8:33:32 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: dennisw
"It was like hunting ... like being given a prize. I couldn't believe it when I saw the soldiers," he said. "The Israelis knew that any soldier who went into the camp like that was going to get killed."

Of course, the Israelis mostly were not killed, and besides that they succeeded in taking out the Palestinians in an allegedly "impossible" manner. The PA has no doubt taken note, Mr. "I'm not dead, just in an Israeli prison" Mardawi's bravado notwithstanding.

39 posted on 04/24/2002 8:46:54 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: agrace
The UN is virulently anti-semitic and anti-Israeli, as is nearly every leftist I have ever met.
40 posted on 04/24/2002 8:48:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
The UN has not passed a single resolution condemming attacks on Israel, everyone has been against them. No matter what takes place, from suicide bombings, attacks on Israel by other countries/terrorist organizations, to leaders of countries paying suicide bombers to kill Israeli's the UN does absolutely nothing.

And this hypocritical organization makes the claim they are for the rights of all people and fair. Yea, and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

41 posted on 04/24/2002 9:00:36 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: Brytani
The five attempts by the Arabs to remove Israel were all "massacres" as well!

The Arabs get creamed each and every time the go up against the Israelis which is why the Arabs displaced the Palies and keep 'em mean!

By not allowing any of the relief monies in ( Araft controls with no accountability whatsoever ALL funds) to help the poor palies that Arabs have created a gang og homeless, hungry, angry people who will sell their kids to Arafat for much needed money.

The next Arab enagement will be a "massacre" as was the Gulf War as was the Afghanistan war as well.

See:

Khaled al-`Azm, who served as Prime Minister of Syria in 1948 and 1949, wrote in his memoirs (published in Beirut, 1973), that among the reasons for the Arab failure in 1948 was "the call by the Arab Governments to the inhabitants of Palestine to evacuate it and to leave for the bordering Arab countries, after having sown terror among them...Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave...We have brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees, by calling upon them and pleading with them to leave their land, their homes, their work and business..." (Part 1, pp. 386-387). See:

Harry C. Stebbens, who was in an official position in the British Mandatory Government in Palestine in 1947-48, wrote in the London Evening Standard (Friday, 10 January, 1969):

"Long before the end of the British mandate, between January and April, 48, practically all my Arab Palestinian staff of some 200 men and women and all of the 1800 labor force had left Haifa in spite of every possible effort to assure them of their safety if they stayed.

"They all left for one or more of the following reasons:

The Arab terrorism engendered by the November, 1947, U.N. partition resolution frightened them to death of their imaginative souls and they feared Jewish retaliation.

Propagandists promised a blood bath as soon as the mandate ended in which the street of all the cities would run with blood.

The promised invasion by the foreign Arab armies (which started on May 14, 1948, with the Arab Legion massacre of some 200 Jewish settlers at Kfar Etzion) was preceded by extensive broadcasts from Cairo, Damascus, Amman, and Beirut to the effect that any Arabs who stayed would be hanged as collaborators with the Jews.

see

Beyond accountability January 9, 2002

By Martin Himel

National Post

Yasser Arafat controls millions of dollars in a secret budget, which is used to fund 'a special economy based on corruption and patronage.' Despite demands, the Palestinian leader refuses to have his spending scrutinized

RAMALLAH, West Bank - The controversy over the Palestinian arms ship underlines a situation critics have long complained of: Yasser Arafat's total control over millions of dollars in a budget that has little accountability or transparency.

He uses the money to reward loyal lieutenants and pay for private projects. Opponents say he could easily siphon off the money for an arms shipment with few people knowing.

Though Mr. Arafat denies any knowledge of the weapons shipment on board the Karine-A last weekend, Israeli leaders say it is only the latest example of Mr. Arafat's spending priorities.

"Arafat chooses to buy long-range Katyusha rockets instead of investing in children's education," Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister, charged on Sunday, pointing toward the ship he called "this Trojan Horse at sea."

Matters are unlikely to change as long as Mr. Arafat has unfettered access to the million-dollar secret stash, made up of money siphoned off from local tax revenues or donations from Arab states and the European Union. It exists in parallel to the official budget, US$1-billion allocated for government services and monitored by members of the Palestinian Legislative Council, the Palestinian parliament.

"The [secret budget] is the political economy of corruption," says Adel Samara, an economist and a controversial figure in the West Bank.

"It is a special economy based on corruption and patronage."

"He has robbed the general government budget of US$200-million," adds Abdel Jawad Saleh, a former agriculture minister and the representative for Ramallah in the PLC.

For years, PLC members have been trying to make Mr. Arafat publish accounts of his secret budget.

42 posted on 04/24/2002 9:05:44 AM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: NELSON111
Larry Lied, RCW2000 , wher are you now?
43 posted on 04/24/2002 9:22:22 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Brytani
No massacre, just a bump.
44 posted on 04/24/2002 9:22:59 AM PDT by TBP
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To: sheik yerbouty
...does seem to have gotten suddenly quiet in here, ehh ?


45 posted on 04/24/2002 9:30:43 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Brytani
Sudan -- a place where you can actually go and pony up 200$ and buy a live human being as a slave, a geniune no-lie slave -- is on the Leadership Council of the UN Human Rights Commission.

The UN is the punchline to the joke that is humanity.

46 posted on 04/24/2002 9:31:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Brytani
Someone please tell the UN before it abases itself any further (if that's possible)...
47 posted on 04/24/2002 9:33:10 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Brytani
bump for exposure...
48 posted on 04/24/2002 9:35:52 AM PDT by VOA
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To: dennisw;veronica;Sabramerican;larrylied;doc;Jurist;demidog;FITZ
bump.
49 posted on 04/24/2002 9:40:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: VOA
i'll see your exposure,
and raise an eyebrow ...
50 posted on 04/24/2002 9:42:39 AM PDT by tomkat
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