[weikel]

Look all the big government crap started in the 1910's with the "progressives"(communists). Ive been over this a million times. Lincoln had been dead almost 50 years before big Government started.

[billbears]

I don't care what you've been over. Facts are facts. What about the Union-Pacific railroad? Who funded that? The Mexicans? No it was the United StateS federal government!! It was an 'internal improvement' plan, much like the ones from Illinois and other northern states that failed so miserably in the 1830s and 1840s. Before the War, it had never been done, because such scams were illegal and even banned in every state constitution. It was bankrupt within a year after it was finished building. And suprisingly enough, less than 20 years later the Northern Transcontinental was built without one federal government red cent!! Even went on to make a little money. How about that? Of course this is just documented history, along with a military invasion by the federal government of the South that lasted ten years and we are still feeling the repercussions of that 'occupation'. This doesn't even begin to cover the corruption of the elected state officials down here during that time which were carpetbaggers or Southern scalawags, all with complete approval by none other than the United StateS federal government. lincoln might have been dead, but it wasn't fifty years before his plans came to fruition, it was more like 5