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To: Reagan Man, sonofliberty2, HalfIrish, NMC EXP, OKCSubmariner, Travis McGee, t-shirt, DoughtyOne,
As for Alan Keyes. You may consider him a conservative hero, but most conservatives, myself included, do not. BTW, I happen to agree with Keyes on some issues. I just don't like him. As for George W.Bush being a neo-con, that's simple not true. At no time in his life, was Bush ever politically associated with liberalism and therefore, can't be labeled a neo-con. And finally, to equate President Bush with Neville Chamberlain, shows a poor understanding of history. You may not support Bush, or even like him, but your convoluted rationale and inflammatory rhetoric, concerning his loyal conservative-republican supporters, has no basis in truth and serves no good purpose.

What convuluted rationale and inflammatory rhetoric concerning his loyal supports are you talking about? Everything I said was absolutely 100% true.

Here's the only thing I said in reference to Bush supporters:

"I think all clear-eyed Republican conservatives, who are not blinded by naive and unfounded unconditional loyalty to the President have come to realize that by now."

So, I ask you again what convuluted rationale and inflamtory rhetoric about Bush supports are you talking about?

At no time in his life, was Bush ever politically associated with liberalism and therefore, can't be labeled a neo-con. And finally, to equate President Bush with Neville Chamberlain, shows a poor understanding of history.

Since when is being a former liberal a requirement for being a neocon? Neoconservatism is a philosophy founded by former Democrap party liberals, but most of its ideological adherents are lifelong Republicans. Bush meets all the requirements for being a neocon. He is a committed globalist/internationalist. Economically, he is a New Dealer and supports big government at home and abroad (NAFTA/FTAA/GATT/WTO). He has increased fedgovt spending at a much higher rate than Clinton did when he was President. He championed the far-left Kennedy education bill as his own which federalizes education and increases the education budget by nearly 50% and continues to deprive parents and children of educational choice. Like all other neocons, Bush supports globalist managed "free" trade cabals. He actually supports increasing immigration to the US from the poorer nations of the world and making the INS more friendly to "undocumented worker" and other immigrants favoring the establishment of INS "welcome centers" on the US-Mexican border.

Bush supports 80% of the Clinton third-way liberal agenda on foreign policy, trade, immigration issues and much of Clinton's domestic agenda as well including the neofascist AmeriKorps, federalization of education, big Medicare benefit increases, and much, much more. Nothing conservative about that, is there? So, in calling Bush a neoconservative for the first time, I am being uncharacteristically kind. I usually refer to him as our "conservatively challenged" President, a "center-lefty" or a mushy moderate. "Traitor to the GOP" is the most accurate political descriptor for what Bush has done in eviscerating the GOP by signing Democrap Incumbent Protection legislation earlier this year. Bush signed this Democrap majority ensuring bill against the will of the vast majority of GOP loyalists and elected officials (the most ardent of whom have since filed suit to this unconstitutional legislation) and in contravention of numerous campaign promises to oppose it. His surrender of the GOP's ability to win elections to the Democraps is certainly on par with Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis at Munich and it was done for the same purpose in the interests of "peace in our time" with the liberal Democrap partisans with whom conservatives have long since learned there can be no peace.
51 posted on 04/25/2002 11:54:42 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
Change that 80% to 90-95% and we're in agreement. Poor unconditional enablers, these are very trying times.
54 posted on 04/25/2002 11:58:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: rightwing2
Everything I said was absolutely 100% true.

True?! Hardly. Frankly, nothing of your inflammatory remarks were true. But I see, you've got yourself convinced otherwise. Congrats.

Since when is being a former liberal a requirement for being a neocon? Neoconservatism is a philosophy founded by former Democrap party liberals...

Talk about contradicting oneself!!! I seriously suggest, you start using a dictionary. Merriam-Webster defines neoconservative as, a former liberal espousing political conservatism. One of the founders of neoconservatism, some even call him the father of neoconservatism, is Irving Kristol. Kristol, along with his wife Gertrude Himmelfarb are well known for their neoconservatism dating back to the 1950`s. BTW, their son is the editor of the neoconservative magazine, The Weakly Standard, Bill Kristol.

The remainder of your rant is typical of someone who knows nothing about politics, power and the presidency. You may be on the rightwing of American politics, but your rhetoric and ideology is more in tune with that of a reactionary absolutist and not with the mainstream conservative movement in America today. But nice try, bucko.

78 posted on 04/25/2002 1:48:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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