Posted on 04/25/2002 10:00:49 AM PDT by Incorrigible
No, it takes much more than consent on the part of the murdered, if you'd bother to check. The state sets all manner of legal hurdles in front of you before you're allowed to kill someone who consents to be killed.
Yet another case of the state's intrusion into our lives, huh? ;-)
I believe they are the only ones that do really well potted.
So they kill other plants to smoke them? Sounds like herbicide to me . . .
Sure they do...it's www.wanderer.com
People who attempt to apply moral relativism to sexual morality or use bizarre hypotheticals and flawed logic to support the perversion of homosexuality. I call them "pro-homo cheerleaders." Please note that many folks claiming to be heterosexual are rabid pro-homo cheerleaders.
So what is your point here? Being right-handed is also the biological norm, are all left-handed people deviant?
Left-handedness is a deviation from the norm, yes. It is a big one considering their numbers. You guys always go to this one as well. Left handedness is morally neutral and has nothing to do with moral behavior.
Should we go back to persecuting left-handed people like the Catholic church did in the not far distant past?
Never heard of such a thing. But it doesn't matter since left-handedness is morally neutral.
Einstein's IQ puts him way outside the "norm", is that deviant and bad?
A deviation from the norm, yes, but there isn't anything bad or immoral about it.
I notice that you seem to confuse the instance of someone's birth, for which no one should be punished, and their behavior. How very odd.
If that was true then the Catholic church wouldn't have this problem. Who would belong to a church that is "hateful"?
Consider the liberal media's attitude towards the Roman Catholic Church, now that's hatred. People belong to the Church because it teaches the truth, particularly about the sin of homosexuality. And such truths just really tick off the wicked!
[look up] phobia in the dictionary some time.
"Phobia" means fear. "Homo-" means self or same. "Homophobia" means fear of yourself or similar things/people.
If you want to describe the natural disgust that normal people have for sexual perverts, I would suggest calling them "Normal."
Then how to you account for the fact that homosexuality has occurred throughout history, in every known culture?
Evil has occurred throughout history and will never be vanquished (not by us, anyway). That's no reason to accept evil, is it? Nor is it an argument to condone the perversion of homosexuality
People have grown up attracted to the same sex without even knowing that there was such a thing as homosexuality. How did they "learn" this behaviour?
There are a variety of reasons why this may have happened, including many types of psychological trauma. However, this doesn't even describe the majority of homosexuals.
Do you have any evidence for this or is it just opinion? I believe that our sexual orientation is primarily biological, you believe it to be learned. Until we get more evidence can't we just agree to disagree?
Actually, I want to see some evidence, any evidence that can withstand peer review actually, that suggests there is a biological determinant for homosexuality.
However, we do have hundreds, even thousands, of examples of people who chose to leave the homosexual lifestyle behind. The homo agenda is doing everything it can to shout those people down but the truth will prevail!.
Not that I ever thought there would be any logic in this post, but he blew it right here. Gays are already sexually deviant. It is reasonable to profile the admittedly sexually deviant as being - well - sexually deviant.
At least, it makes sense to me. If he wants to claim that claiming gays are deviant is like claiming priests are clergy, he'd have a logically consistant statement.
Shalom.
Yet another case of the state's intrusion into our lives, huh?
Most of the hurdles are based on proving mental competence, or so I've read. I'm Catholic, so suicide is a choice I could never make for myself. That said, if someone else chooses to do so I'm content to let them be judged on "the other side". The State has no basis for dictating to terminally ill patients how long they must suffer.
The Scouts are catching a lot of flak, but their leaders are not being accused of abusing the boys.
Rome, make a note!
Shalom.
Maybe an American state doesn't, but a Catholic one certainly does. Being pro-life is from conception to natural death.
SD
I've come to believe that celibacy has created a situation where these men become sex-obsessed, like teen-agers.
I am going to present two sets of sins, one "a", and one "b". Read both sets carefully, before proceeding to the bottom of this post. I will explicitly explain the difference between the two sortly. Here we go...
(For those of you who are "secular humanists," or don't believe in the concept of "sin," you might as well pass over this post now. I can promise you that the concepts contained within will not make sense from your perspective.)
a. For a man to look at a woman lustfully is sin.
b. For a man to look at a man lustfully is sin.
I don't think there has been any argument about either of these scenarios.
b. For a man to sleep with a man (a man cannot be another man's "WIFE") is sin. ("sodomy" in your Bibles)
Once again, I'm not seeing too much argument here, thought there is some.
b. For this man to ask for forgiveness for his sins, he must first accept that what he has done is sinful. He must also honestly and truly ask for forgiveness from his sins, with the same expectation that he will cease and desist his sinful behavior (as this is what "repentance" is all about). The same consequences (STD's, AIDS, death) might still apply, but he will be comforted in knowing his salvation is secured.
The difference between these two scenarios, according to your typical homosexual activist, is that the man in scenario "a" is expected to repent and ask forgiveness for his sinful behavior, while the man in scenario "b" is frequently told to BE PROUD and CELEBRATE his sin (depravity), which, he is told, is just a result of (insert result here).
There was never any question that humans are all sinful, to a true Christian. To argue otherwise is clearly not the point. The Christian perspective on this issue requires that we look at sin fairly (which we do), and that we expect to see true repentance of sins in a true Christian. THIS is why the arguments brought forth by homosexual activists who claim to be Christians is morally repugnant.
Where do you stand in relation to this hypothetical?
:) ttt
Gay people are entitled to live the lives they want, just not at the expense of everyone else who isn't gay. I don't care what they do, I don't care where they go, and frankly their lifestyle doesn't impact me... Much. You see, Gays seem to have a lot of sway with government, media, and education. There shouldn't be special treatment of gays, or their agenda. Gay people are NOT born gay. There is no genetic difference in gay people, and straight people. Gay people shouldn't receive any better treatment, or be given any more voice in government or education than the average straight person. However, they seem to have a lot more influence than me, or anyone else who is straight.
Getting rid of gay priests, by God's law, and all others who aren't worthy to lead, is religiously correct. You can't question God, and expect to get the answers you always want.
I'm not a biblical scholar, but in the name of tolerance we've allowed things that should have never been. A pedophilic gay priest is the ultimate betrayal in the eyes of God, and it should be the ultimate betrayal in the eyes of the Catholic Church. They also tolerate too much. Catholics should hide themselves in shame until this cancer is cured.
Nothing a little prison can't fix.
Then of course you don't mind incest, bestiality and pedophilia, right?
There is only one “orientation,” the rest is pathology.
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