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Get It Straight -- The hypocrisy of blaming gays for sexual abuse by priests.
Slate ^ | April 24, 2002 | William Saletan

Posted on 04/25/2002 10:00:49 AM PDT by Incorrigible

Get It Straight
The hypocrisy of blaming gays for sexual abuse by priests.
By William Saletan
Posted Wednesday, April 24, 2002, at 2:01 PM PT

 

Illustration by Robert Neubecker

The one thing everybody knows about the Roman Catholic Church is that you're supposed to confess your sins. Everybody, that is, except the church's leaders. First they failed to come clean about sexual abuse by priests. Then they failed to come clean about having covered up the abuse. Every time they assured the public that nothing else would come out, something else came out.

Now the bishops, the cardinals, and conservative interest groups have a new story. The problem, they say, is homosexuality. If the church gets rid of gay priests, everything will be fine. But the more questions you ask about this story, the more contradictions you find. The cardinals' problem isn't that they can't keep the priesthood straight. The problem is that once again, they can't keep their story straight. Here are four key points on which their new alibi doesn't add up.

1. Profiling. The Family Research Council, the Traditional Values Coalition, the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, Roman Catholic Faithful, and numerous priests and bishops suggest that the church should weed out gay priests because a disproportionate share of sexual abuse cases involving priests are male-on-male. Credible reports say 90 percent of the victims are boys. Conservatives don't care that most gay priests don't molest kids. Their view is that it's fair to presume that an individual is dangerous if he's part of a high-risk group.

Unless, of course, we're talking about priests as a whole. In that case, conservatives point out the unfairness of judging the group on the basis of a few bad apples. Consider the FRC's April 5 statement, "Media Hides Homosexuality Connection in Sex Abuse Scandal." According to the FRC, the "connection" is that "most cases" of abuse by priests are male-on-male. The standard for blaming a crime on a group, in other words, is what percentage of the crime is committed by the group. But in the same statement, FRC scolds the media for besmirching the Catholic clergy, when in fact the abusers are "a very small number of priests." Suddenly, FRC's standard for blaming a crime on a group isn't what percentage of the crime is committed by the group—that would be inconvenient, since 100 percent of sex abuse by priests is committed by priests—but what percentage of the group commits the crime.

How do gays measure up to that standard? What percentage of gay priests have sexually abused children? The FRC doesn't say. Why not? Well, according to last Friday's New York Times, there are 46,000 Catholic priests in the United States; 30 percent to 50 percent of Catholic seminarians are gay; and lawyers for victims "claim to have lists of more than 1,000 priests accused of abuse in the United States." If you assume the worst—that only 30 percent of priests are gay, that 2,000 priests will end up accused, and that all the accused priests are guilty, gay, and current rather than former priests—fewer than 15 percent of gay priests have committed sexual abuse. If the 2,000 cases are spread over a period of 80 percent turnover in the priesthood, or if the number of guilty priests is more like 1,100, or if the percentage of priests who are gay is more like 50 percent, then only about 8 percent of gay priests have committed sexual abuse. According to the Catholic League, that's the rate of pedophilia "in the general adult population."

 

If you want to use profiling to weed out pedophiles, there's a far more effective way. One hundred percent of sexual abuse by priests is committed by men. So is nearly all sexual abuse of children. While it's hard to tell who's gay, it's easy to tell who's male. The ideal solution would be to ban men from the priesthood. The modest alternative would be to admit women. If conservatives were serious about protecting kids, they'd begin with that step. Instead, they've rejected it.

 

2. Deviance. When pedophiles such as the notorious Rev. Paul Shanley dissent from the Catholic hierarchy, conservatives dismiss them as twisted heretics. When these same pedophiles dissent from gay rights groups, conservatives infer that the pedophiles, not the gay rights groups, represent gay thinking. Connie Marshner, the director of the Free Congress Foundation's Center for Governance, argues that sexual liberalism has infected Catholicism and that the church must return to its roots. Meanwhile, she quotes a "pederast theoretician" who recently denounced the gay rights movement for preaching "assimilation" and trying to "demonize cross-generational love." So the gay rights movement, like the Catholic Church, rejects pederasty, right? Well, no. According to Marshner, the church's rejection is genuine, while the movement's rejection is tactical.

3. Alternate causality. According to conservatives, sexual abuse by priests can't be blamed on celibacy, since many clergymen who molest minors are married. "The best evidence suggests that the rate of priest pedophilia is about the same as found among the clergy of other religions," Catholic League President Bill Donohue pointed out four weeks ago. "Indeed, the Anglican dioceses in British Columbia are going bankrupt because so many ministers can't keep their hands to themselves. And these men are married." Donohue's logic sounds pretty solid: Some sexual abusers in the clergy are married; married clergymen aren't subject to the celibacy rule; therefore, some sexual abusers in the clergy aren't subject to the celibacy rule; therefore, sexual abuse in the clergy can't be blamed on the celibacy rule.

Let's try the same logic on homosexuality. Some sexual abusers in the clergy are married; married clergymen generally aren't gay; therefore, some sexual abusers in the clergy aren't gay; therefore, sexual abuse in the clergy can't be blamed on homosexuality—right? Uh, not exactly. "It is intellectually outrageous and deceitful to pretend that we don't know what's going on here," Donohue said on Fox News this week. "Too many sexually active gays have been in the priesthood, and it's about time they were routed out."

4. Gray area. The old school of sexuality held that deviance was continuous: Stray from the path of righteousness, and pretty soon you'll be lying with other men, children, and dogs. The new school separates these practices into distinct orientations or disorders. The old school had coherence; the new school has cachet. The gay-blamers can't figure out which way to go. If they say homosexuality is distinct from pedophilia, they can't blame the latter on the former. On the other hand, if they say homosexuality is just one manifestation of waywardness, they can't assure the public that getting rid of the former will get rid of the latter.

The result is precisely the kind of moral confusion conservatives claim to oppose. To project coherence, they attribute abuse by priests to "sexual anarchy" and "moral chaos." At the same time, to make the blame-gays theory look scientific, they draw convenient distinctions. According to Traditional Values Coalition Chairman Lou Sheldon, "To describe these priests as 'pedophiles' is clearly inaccurate—unless their victims are under the age of 13. The truth is that these are homosexuals who are engaging in pederasty or so-called consensual 'boy-love.' " Similarly, Cardinal Adam Maida of Detroit said this week that "the behavioral scientists are telling us, the sociologists, it's not truly a pedophilia-type problem but a homosexual problem."

Maida, Sheldon, and other clerics and activists think they're safeguarding morality. But by describing a sexual relationship with a child between the ages of 13 and 17, unlike sex with a younger child, as a matter of hetero- or homosexual orientation, they are, in a strange way, normalizing such relationships. They're framing sex with teen-agers more like sex with adults and less like sex with children. They still believe it's wrong, but they're undermining the basis of that belief. And by insisting that the church has a gay problem, not a pedophile problem, they're letting pedophiles off the hook.

They're also letting men who have sex with teen-age girls off the hook. Last Sunday, National Review editor Rich Lowry said of priestly abuse, "A lot of these cases don't involve the molestation of little boys, pedophilia. [They] involve having sex with teen-age boys, which is more sort of homosexual behavior. … I'm not justifying it. It's just not something heterosexual men do." Yesterday, Cardinal Francis George of Chicago added that the church should allow "wiggle room" in punishing abusive priests. "There is a difference between a moral monster like [homosexual molester Father John] Geoghan, who preys upon little children, and does so in a serial fashion, and someone who perhaps under the influence of alcohol engages in an action with a 17- or 16-year-old young woman who returns his affection," said George.

"Not something heterosexual men do"? "Wiggle room" for sex with a 16-year-old "young woman"? Look who's liberal now.

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To: MadRobotArtist
If you think about having gay sex, you are sinful, and evil.

So should people with homosexual attraction have their brains removed?
21 posted on 04/25/2002 10:26:48 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Incorrigible
If the 2,000 cases are spread over a period of 80 percent turnover in the priesthood, or if the number of guilty priests is more like 1,100, or if the percentage of priests who are gay is more like 50 percent, then only about 8 percent of gay priests have committed sexual abuse. According to the Catholic League, that's the rate of pedophilia "in the general adult population."

Here is that bogus 8% figure again. In other words, for every 12 people you meet on the street, one of them is a pedophile.

Yeah, sure.

I don't know what the Catholic League was thinking when they dreamed up that statistic to try to justify the high rate of pedophilia among priests, but I don't believe it for a second.

22 posted on 04/25/2002 10:26:51 AM PDT by 07055
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To: All
The Unthinkable Has Become Thinkable (Excerpt from "The Same Sex Controversy" - by James R. White and Jeffrey D. Neill)

For your information regarding the perversions of Christian doctrine which are so prevalent amongst the Liberal demoninations (not a typo).

:) ttt

23 posted on 04/25/2002 10:27:50 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Incorrigible
Interesting that Slate used an illustration depicting a heretic priest being burned at the state, Inquisition-style. The barbarity of some inquisitional sentences came at the hands of the state, and was condemned by the Church. Since the content of Slate is so blatantly pro-big-government, it's fitting that they seek to punish those whom the Religion of Secular Humanism considers to be heretics.
24 posted on 04/25/2002 10:28:08 AM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter
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To: Incorrigible
The homosexual subculture and its defenders will do everything they can to avert the conclusion that the sexual abuse of boys, which, despite Bill Donohue's assertions, occurs at a far higher rate among Catholic clergy than among the ministers of other Christian denominations, are the fruit of homosexuality within the Church, even though the existence of a lavender mafia with particular, enormous influence over seminaries is well established.

The critical factor in the abuses is not human sexuality. Indeed, to be fair, it might not even be homosexuality as such. But only within the Catholic clergy do men of God get such enormous, unsupervised authority over the young -- and only within the Catholic clergy are as many as 25% homosexual. Even if that figure is overstated by a factor of two, that would mean that three times as many priests per capita are homosexual as are secular American men.

Homosexuals, therefore, are attracted to the priesthood in disproportionate numbers. Why? What does it offer that's especially enticing to homosexuals? Couldn't a position of authority over young boys, whose sexuality is in a dynamic, influenceable state, be one of the attractions?

The Church, by insisting that priests be unmarried, has deprived itself of one of the checks on homosexuals entering its ranks. This is not to say that there are no married homosexuals. However, by limiting its candidates to the unmarried, the Church sacrifices a partially effective filter for homosexuality. Also, Protestant ministers rather frequently share pastoral authority and duty with their wives. Continuous spousal supervision thwarts many temptations to sexual sin -- and this is no less true of marriages in which the husband's sexual orientation is divided or concealed. Given the removal of these deterrents, is it really a surprise that homosexual and pederastic impulses are more frequently acted upon by priests than by non-Catholic clergymen, or by secular American men? Given that the Church in America has faced a severe shortage of vocations these past few decades, is it really a surprise that the Church has been slow to root out the problem in the only effective way?

Homosexuals have fought hard specifically to get into positions of authority over young boys: as teachers, as Boy Scout troop leaders, and as priests. If that authority brings them personally nothing they particularly desire, why have they made such an effort?

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
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25 posted on 04/25/2002 10:28:48 AM PDT by fporretto
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To: Incorrigible
Only part of the article I agree with is the part about the cardinals
If this had been heterosexual priests preying on 12-14 year old girls the cardinals would have covered it up just as much

Heads should roll but won't
26 posted on 04/25/2002 10:30:30 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Cicero
The liberal media lit this fire, thinking they could control it. Now they will have to suffer the consequences.

WELL PUT! Alwas eager to use a given issue to bash Christianity, the Media never realized that the truth would get out about this scandal.

:) ttt

27 posted on 04/25/2002 10:31:05 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: RasterMaster
"Proving once again that the author is an idiot. Both are crimes, and hypoteticals to not prove a case. Gays are deviants, just as pedifiles are DEVIANTS...there is no difference."

Always good science and logic on these gay threads. Thanx for keeping up the tradition.

28 posted on 04/25/2002 10:33:06 AM PDT by breakem
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To: Incorrigible
"30% to 50% gay priests"

I have never seen a figure this high (the figure I have seen most often is 10% to 20%), so I suspect he is using the highest figure he could find to make the percentage of offending gay priests as low as possible. If you use the more common estimates of gay priests, the percentage of sexual offenders jumps to 30-45%, and that is an unacceptably high risk.
29 posted on 04/25/2002 10:35:35 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Incorrigible
the author of this article is an idiot
30 posted on 04/25/2002 10:37:49 AM PDT by knak
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To: breakem
Those who make excuses or wish to add "protection under the law" for deviants are just as guilty. So, you do nothing but help the deviants become "main-stream" by treating them as if they are like 'everyone else'.
31 posted on 04/25/2002 10:40:36 AM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: Incorrigible
Conservatives don't care that most gay priests don't molest kids.

REAL Catholics are concerned that there ARE homosexual priests, many are active and some abuse children and adolescents. The homosexual condition , especially a practicing homosexual, is TOTALLY contradictory to the sexual moral code. This conservative and Catholic Christian wants ALL the homosexuals out of the priesthood and no more brought in.

32 posted on 04/25/2002 10:42:46 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: RasterMaster
You do nothing but fertilize the ignorance by comparing sex with adults to sex with little kids. I'm here to point out the illogic of your statement. The fact that you don't see it merely highlights my point.
33 posted on 04/25/2002 10:44:54 AM PDT by breakem
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To: ppaul;aLL;KHEPERA
Outlaw "Gay" (homosexual) priests? I have a better idea... outlaw homosexuality!
34 posted on 04/25/2002 10:47:48 AM PDT by wwjdn
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To: Incorrigible
Mr. Saletan is obviously desperate to protect homosexuality in the priesthood. The main problem with this has nothing to do with the current scandal. It has to do with Catholc doctrine, which declares homosexuality as objectively disordered, and labels all expressions of homosexuality as sinful.

Getting active homosexuals out of the priesthood, and being vigilant in keeping them from entry to the seminaries in the future, is nothing more than a return to Catholic morality within the priesthood.

35 posted on 04/25/2002 10:48:06 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Pete
30 percent to 50 percent of Catholic seminarians are gay

Get rid of them all. I'm tired of my money paying for that crap.

36 posted on 04/25/2002 10:48:25 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: breakem
DEVIANTS ARE DEVIANTS....you need further study of "nature" and the differences between the sexes and why. Anything else is DEVIANT behavior. Saying one is not as bad as the other does not change the fact that is DEVIANCY. You only wish to define deviancy down, so that you can feel "accepted".
37 posted on 04/25/2002 10:49:11 AM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: Incorrigible
This problem has been around in the church for a long time. The parents may not have talked about it but if you went to a Catholic school like I did chances are the kids may have discussed it. Homosexual's have hidden behind the collar for years. The problem is not that priests can't get married it's that before the gay lifestyle became so open priest hid in the church. If a priest is a practicing homosexual how do you justify keeping him on as a priest, I mean they took a vow to abstain from sex. 99% of these cases will prove out to be priests molesting young boys, this tells me that homosexual priests are a danger to young boys. If the church expects to survive in America it had better get rid of these priests ASAP.
38 posted on 04/25/2002 10:52:04 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: RasterMaster
You are intellectually deviant. Since deviance is deviance you are the same as they, by your own logic.

Thanx for telling me who I've come to support and what I need to read. You're as ignorant on that as you were on your first comment.

39 posted on 04/25/2002 10:52:59 AM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
Feeble attempts to legitimize deviancy, with more ignorant, logic-free commentary.

Sexual DEVIANTS...you must be another gay looking for sympathy or a free pass to practice deviance in the public.

40 posted on 04/25/2002 11:05:21 AM PDT by RasterMaster
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