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To: FormerLib
Ah, this tired old line yet again! Don't you guys ever come up with anything new?

"you guys"? Who exactly are you referring to? People who disagree with you? Should I even bother responding or have you written off anything I might have to say?

Attraction to the opposite sex is the biological norm.

Acting upon an attraction is a chosen behavior!


So what is your point here? Being right-handed is also the biological norm, are all left-handed people deviant? Should we go back to persecuting left-handed people like the Catholic church did in the not far distant past? Einstein's IQ puts him way outside the "norm", is that deviant and bad?

Also teach them that anyone who disagrees with this is hateful.

If that was true then the Catholic church wouldn't have this problem. Who would belong to a church that is "hateful"?

Make up a nonsense term, such as "homophobia," to describe this otherwise normal reaction to degeneracy.

Homophobia is a nonsense term? Look up phobia in the dictionary some time. Not everyone who disagrees with homosexuality is homophobic, but homophobia does exist. It is an unhealthy fear and/or hatred of homosexuals.

I think you'd have had to undergo such a major psychological manipulation to have a normal child willfully accept homosexual behaviors.

Then how to you account for the fact that homosexuality has occurred throughout history, in every known culture? People have grown up attracted to the same sex without even knowing that there was such a thing as homosexuality. How did they "learn" this behaviour?

The person who is actually attracted to the same sex without such manipulation is simply ill and in need of treatment to recover from their illness.

Do you have any evidence for this or is it just opinion? I believe that our sexual orientation is primarily biological, you believe it to be learned. Until we get more evidence can't we just agree to disagree?
86 posted on 04/25/2002 12:50:59 PM PDT by moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing
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To: moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing
How did they "learn" this behaviour?

How does a 10 month old "learn" to pull her sister's hair and laugh at her pain?

Human beings don't have to "learn" sin--we are sinful, inherently.

Did you ever go to Sunday school?

89 posted on 04/25/2002 12:56:35 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing; Clint N. Suhks; EdReform; detsaoT
"you guys"? Who exactly are you referring to?

People who attempt to apply moral relativism to sexual morality or use bizarre hypotheticals and flawed logic to support the perversion of homosexuality. I call them "pro-homo cheerleaders." Please note that many folks claiming to be heterosexual are rabid pro-homo cheerleaders.

So what is your point here? Being right-handed is also the biological norm, are all left-handed people deviant?

Left-handedness is a deviation from the norm, yes. It is a big one considering their numbers. You guys always go to this one as well. Left handedness is morally neutral and has nothing to do with moral behavior.

Should we go back to persecuting left-handed people like the Catholic church did in the not far distant past?

Never heard of such a thing. But it doesn't matter since left-handedness is morally neutral.

Einstein's IQ puts him way outside the "norm", is that deviant and bad?

A deviation from the norm, yes, but there isn't anything bad or immoral about it.

I notice that you seem to confuse the instance of someone's birth, for which no one should be punished, and their behavior. How very odd.

If that was true then the Catholic church wouldn't have this problem. Who would belong to a church that is "hateful"?

Consider the liberal media's attitude towards the Roman Catholic Church, now that's hatred. People belong to the Church because it teaches the truth, particularly about the sin of homosexuality. And such truths just really tick off the wicked!

[look up] phobia in the dictionary some time.

"Phobia" means fear. "Homo-" means self or same. "Homophobia" means fear of yourself or similar things/people.

If you want to describe the natural disgust that normal people have for sexual perverts, I would suggest calling them "Normal."

Then how to you account for the fact that homosexuality has occurred throughout history, in every known culture?

Evil has occurred throughout history and will never be vanquished (not by us, anyway). That's no reason to accept evil, is it? Nor is it an argument to condone the perversion of homosexuality

People have grown up attracted to the same sex without even knowing that there was such a thing as homosexuality. How did they "learn" this behaviour?

There are a variety of reasons why this may have happened, including many types of psychological trauma. However, this doesn't even describe the majority of homosexuals.

Do you have any evidence for this or is it just opinion? I believe that our sexual orientation is primarily biological, you believe it to be learned. Until we get more evidence can't we just agree to disagree?

Actually, I want to see some evidence, any evidence that can withstand peer review actually, that suggests there is a biological determinant for homosexuality.

However, we do have hundreds, even thousands, of examples of people who chose to leave the homosexual lifestyle behind. The homo agenda is doing everything it can to shout those people down but the truth will prevail!.

105 posted on 04/25/2002 2:19:25 PM PDT by FormerLib
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