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Jenin War Diary of a Hasidic Soldier (Israeli describes what went on in Jenin)
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| April 25, 2002
| Sergeant Major Rami Meir
Posted on 04/25/2002 5:42:23 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: Pissed Off Janitor,dennisw
FR's Israel-Bashing brigade has been thankfully MIA on this and most other threads that show that Jenin was a battle and not a massacare....I have noticed that, too. Let us give thanks!
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posted on
04/26/2002 2:22:06 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
BTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT We need more witnessing from Israel. From the men on the line. Women too. More personal accounts!
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posted on
04/26/2002 2:43:21 AM PDT
by
dennisw
To: Alouette; dennisw; veronica
..... an officer of the elite unit Egoz got on the bus. I saw how delighted the young man was to have been called, so eager to go in and hit the terrorists. In an instant my own mood changed and I, too, became filled with strength and decisiveness, thinking as I had been given an opportunity to defend with my body my home, my wife and children, and the whole nation of Israel .....
.... the Whole Nation of Israel.
Where male children are male children and men are entire men -- and experience such strength and resolve and joy as comes FRom the speaking of such Truths as are spoken by this Beautiful Man.
To: Alouette, dennisw
Alouette, thank you for posting this wonderful article.
Dennisw, thanks for the ping.
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posted on
04/26/2002 4:51:25 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: Pissed Off Janitor
Sorry, but I just can't help pointing out that FR's Israel-Bashing brigade has been thankfully MIA on this and most other threads that show that Jenin was a battle and not a massacare. Keep pointing it out. Notice their hair-trigger response when the lies started filling the airwaves? If a house is leveled or an Arab terrorist killed these are war crimes in their books.
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posted on
04/26/2002 5:03:22 AM PDT
by
Lent
To: JeepInMazar
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posted on
04/26/2002 5:57:29 AM PDT
by
Alouette
To: Pissed Off Janitor
Good point, perhaps even those lowlifes have reached their threshhold of shame?
To: Alouette; dennisw
Great post!
To: Cinnamon Girl
At least it was a soldier. Usually they kill women and children.
To: Alouette
Thanks for the link!
To: Cinnamon Girl
Thanks for the ping. This is good to read, even though I never considered the "massacre in Jenin" as anything but a lie and media fantasy.
God bless Israel.
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posted on
04/26/2002 1:11:29 PM PDT
by
keri
To: Travis McGee, Yehuda
It would be an honor to fight beside such men. It is indeed. Mazel Tov!
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posted on
04/26/2002 1:18:12 PM PDT
by
archy
To: Alouette
"In an instant my own mood changed and I, too, became filled with strength and decisiveness, thinking as I had been given an opportunity to defend with my body my home, my wife and children, and the whole nation of Israel."Glory to God!
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posted on
04/26/2002 4:38:22 PM PDT
by
semaj
To: Alouette
Heart breaking in that the general public of the West will never believe the truth, but hearwarming in the piousness, courage and determination of Israel's military. Thanks for the post.
To: archy
Notice the Israeli counter-sniper is using a Mauser 98 bolt action rifle. Thousands of ex-German rifles later went to the Jewish state, and there was a post-war contract with FN in Belgium for some also. These were converted in the mid-50's to the new .30 cal NATO round, 7.62 X 51. Most of these ended up being surplused to the US sporting market - I have two. They are beat-up and ugly but still a prize to me. The standard war arm of the Jews' worst enemy, still used as a shield for Isreal.
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posted on
04/26/2002 5:06:01 PM PDT
by
DmBarch
To: Alouette
There were men who had been chronically absent during training sessions, yet here they were,
every last one of them.
Another example of something dictators, totalitarians, and terrorists just can't grasp.
The secret weapon called "the citizen soldier".
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posted on
04/26/2002 5:09:24 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: cake_crumb
Heart breaking in that the general public of the West will never believe the truth, Will the UN do a better "investigation" of Jenin than the U.S. Justice Dept. did on Waco?
To: Alouette
What is Telfillin?
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posted on
04/26/2002 9:44:15 PM PDT
by
whadizit
To: Alouette; Prodigal Daughter
>I took out what little matzah I had left and a bottle of wine and told the guys it was time for "Moshiach's (Messiah's) meal," to enhance our faith in the coming redemption. All of them responded as one: "what we need now is Moshiach." I handed out matzah and wine to everybody and we had a kind of Chanukah miracle -- there was enough matzah and wine for thirty peopleI liked that part the best too. Thanks for posting this and for the bump. Great article!
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posted on
04/27/2002 6:29:48 AM PDT
by
2sheep
To: DmBarch
Notice the Israeli counter-sniper is using a Mauser 98 bolt action rifle. Thousands of ex-German rifles later went to the Jewish state, and there was a post-war contract with FN in Belgium for some also. These were converted in the mid-50's to the new .30 cal NATO round, 7.62 X 51. Most of these ended up being surplused to the US sporting market - I have two. They are beat-up and ugly but still a prize to me. The standard war arm of the Jews' worst enemy, still used as a shield for Isreal. Oh yes. The story of Israeli arms procurement in the early days of the State is a fascinating one, and includes France and Czechoslovokia, as well as a few other less well-known sources. That was well before my time, but I have been priviged to have met and known some of the players.
But your *beat-up and ugly* rifles can still do now what they did then, and deserve better condition than beat-up. Let me know if they require anything to be in the best of condition and fully servicable; a good supply of the parts for the old boltguns is still available, both in Israel and here. And you now have access to an Israeli armourer as well.
I presume yours are in the more recent 7,62x51mm NATO cartridge chambering? Nothing wrong with it, but the older 7,92 Mauser load is better for longer range work by at least 200 meters more, particularly if the 200-grain boattail bullets are used, as the Serbs and Croats found out during the 1991 unpleasantness in Sarajevo. The old Mausers in their original chambering, as used by the Serbs, were quite capable of handling the Croat SVD Draganov rifles out to 1000 meters and beyond, particularly with decent sighting equipment fitted.
-archy-/-
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posted on
04/27/2002 7:26:19 AM PDT
by
archy
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