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Another interesting statistic here is that of the TOP NINE conservatives in the US Senate, FOUR including Jesse Helms are former Democrats. This just goes to show how far left the Democrat party has gone from its once conservative pre-New Deal 1932 party platform.
3 posted on 04/26/2002 2:54:14 PM PDT by rightwing2
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Well, well, well, Bob Smith is on the list. I wonder how all the Smith bashers feel now? Or maybe those that bash Smith aren't really conservative at all.
4 posted on 04/26/2002 2:56:07 PM PDT by Registered
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Not to be contrary, but the pre-WWII Democrat Party is a little TOO conservative, at least in some areas. But your point is well taken.....
5 posted on 04/26/2002 3:08:11 PM PDT by Malcolm
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>> This just goes to show how far left the Democrat party has gone from its once conservative pre-New Deal 1932 party platform. <<

Sorry, my friend, but Woodrow Wilson, Charles & William Bryan, and John Peter Altgeld were not "conservative". The "leaders" of the Democratic Party were socialist and so was their platform (as is today). In fact, a major arguement of the McKinley campaign in 1896 was that Bryan's positions were a duplicate of the Socialist Party platform (back in those days, the GOP could expose the Dems as "socialist" without being called "mean-sprited angry right wingers". Instead, Bryan screamed that McKinley was a "cold-hearted capitalist" and a "tool of the rich and elite" Sound familar?)

True, some SOUTHERN Democrats were conservative (and probably roughly a 1/3rd of party), but the fact that they were in denial about their party's "leaders" didn't change the fact that conservatives NEVER had control of the Democrat Party in ANY part of the 20th century. Speaking of which, Franklin Roosevelt was the Dem nominee for V.P. in 1920 and he was just as liberal then as he was in 1932. Luckily, most "conservative" Democrats realized trying to get their party to support their views was a lost cause-- the bad part was it took the "conservative" Dems until the 1960s and 70s to finally REALIZE this and quit the scumbag party.

Here's your "pre New Deal" Democrat platforms. Conservative? HA!

"Woodrow Wilson hails with patriotic pride the great achievements for country and the world wrought by a Democratic administration under his leadership... adherence to the fundamental progressive principles of social, economic and industrial justice and advance"
"The Democratic party favors the league of nations as the surest if not the only practicable means of maintaining the permanent peace of the world and terminating the insufferable burden of great military and naval establishments. It was for this that America broke away from traditional isolation...we commend the president for his courage and his high conception of good faith in steadfastly standing for the covenant agreed to by all the associated and allied nations at war with Germany and we condemn the Republican senate for its refusal to ratify the treaty merely because it was the product of Democratic statesmanship thus interposing partisan envy and personal hatred in the way of the peace and renewed prosperity of the world."
"We reject as utterly vain, if not vicious, the Republican assumption that ratification of the treaty and membership in the league of nations would in any wise impair the integrity or independence of our country. The fact that the covenant has been entered into by twenty-nine nations, all as jealous of their independence as we of ours, is a sufficient refutation of such a charge"
"During the war president Wilson exhibited the very broadest conception of liberal Americanism. In his conduct of the war...America constituted a decisive factor in the victory and brought new lustre
to the flag".
"A review of the record of the Democratic party during the administration of Woodrow Wilson presents a chapter of substantial achievements...by the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, the old system, which bred panics, was replaced by a new system, which insured confidence....we wisely insisted during the war upon meeting an adequate portion of the war expenditure from current taxes and the bulk of the balance from popular loans, and, during the first full fiscal year after the fighting stopped....We condemn the attempt of the Republican party to deprive the American people of their legitimate pride in the financing of the war, an achievement without parallel in the financial history of this or any other country, in this or any other war. And in particular we condemn the pernicious attempt of the republican party to create discontent among the holders of the bonds of the government of the United States and to drag our public finance and our banking and currency system back into the area of party politics".
"The simple truth is that the high cost of living can only be remedied by increased production, strict governmental economy and a relentless pursuit of those who take advantage of post-war conditions and are demanding and receiving outrageous profits. ...we pledge the democratic party to.... economy in government expenditures, and to the enactment and enforcement of such legislation as may be required to bring profiteers before the bar of criminal justice."
"The Democratic party is now as ever the firm friend of honest labor and the promoter of progressive industry. It established the Department of Labor at Washington and a Democratic president called to his official council board the first practical workingman who ever held a cabinet portfolio. Under this administration have been established employment bureaus to bring the man and the job together, have been peaceably determined many bitter disputes between capital and labor, were passed the child-labor act, the workingman's compensation act (the extension of which we advocate so as to include laborers engaged in loading and unloading ships and in interstate commerce), the eight-hour law the act for vocational training, and a code of other wholesome laws affecting the liberties and bettering the conditions of the laboring classes. In the Department of labor the Democratic administration established a woman's bureau which a Republican congress destroyed by withholding appropriations. Labor is not a commodity; it is human. Those who labor have rights, and the national security and safety depend upon a just recognition of those rights and the conservation of the strength of the workers and their families in the interest of sound-hearted and sound-headed men, women and children. Laws regulating hours of labor and conditions under which labor is performed, when passed in recognition of the conditions under which life must be lived to attain the highest development and happiness, are just assertions of the national interest in the welfare of the people."

-- 1920 Democratic Party Platform

And that's only a FEW paragraphs from the FIRST five pages of their little opus. This thing is Clintonesque before Clinton existed! 26 pages of government regulations, tax-and-spend, buruecratic ideas, and condemning traditional values. Any "conservative" Democrat who pledged allegance to those "old" Democrat platforms was a fool!

43 posted on 04/26/2002 9:58:12 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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"Republican[s are].... the principal cause of the unequal distribution of wealth, it is a system of taxation which makes the rich richer and the poor poorer, under its operations the American farmer and laboring man are the chief sufferers, it raises the cost of the necessaries of life to them,but does not protect their product or wages."
"We denounce the action of President Taft in vetoing the bills to reduceth tariff in the cotton woolen metals and chemical schedules and the Farmer's free bill, all of which were designed to give immediate relief to the masses from the exactions of the trusts."
"We insist upon the full exercise of all the powers of the Government, both State and National, to protect the people from injustice at the hands of those who seek to make the government a private asset in business. There is no twilight zone between the nation and the state in which exploiting interests can take refuge from both. It is as necessary that the Federal government shall exercise the powers delegated to it as it is that the States shall exercise the powers reserved to them, but we insist that the Federal remedies for the regulation of interstate commerce and for the prevention of private monopoly, shall be added to, and not substituted for State remedies".
"We congratulate the country upon the triumph of two important reforms demandedin the last national platform, namely, the amendment of the Federal Constitution authorizing an income tax... we call upon the people of all the States to rally to thesupport of the pending propositions and secure their ratification...--a measure demanded in ournational platform of 1908, and at that time opposed by the Republican Party--and we commend the Democratic House of Representatives for extending the doctrine of publicity to recommendations...to the ownership and control of newspapers, and to the expenditures made by and in behalf of those who aspire to presidential nominations, and we point for additional justification for this legislation... the President and his predecessor in the recent contest for the Republican nomination for President".
--1912 Democratic Party Platform

"The greedy commercialism which dictated the Philippine policy of the Republican administration attempts to justify it with the plea that it willpay, but even this sordid and unworthy plea fails when brought to the test of facts. The war of criminal aggression against the Filipinos,entailing an annual expense of many millions"
"Private monopolies are indefensible and intolerable. They destroy competition,control the price of all material, and of the finished product, thus robbing both producer and consumer. They lessen the employment of labor, and arbitrarily fix the terms and conditions thereof; and deprive individual energy and small capital of their opportunity of betterment...They are the most efficient means yet devised for appropriating the fruits of industry to the benefit of the few at the expense of the many, and unless their insatiate greed is checked, all wealth will be aggregated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed. The dishonest paltering with the trust evil by the Republican party in State and national platforms is conclusive proof of the truth of the charge that trusts are the legitimate product of Republican policies, that they are fostered by Republican laws, and that they are protected by the Republican administration, in return for campaign subscriptions and political support."
"We pledge the Democratic party to an unceasing warfare in nation.... against private monopoly in every form. Existing laws against trusts must be enforced and more stringent ones must be enacted providing for publicityas to the affairs of corporations engaged in interstate commerce requiring all corporations to show, before doing business outside the state of their origin, that they have no water in their stock, and that they have not attempted,and are not attempting, to monopolize any branch of business or the production of any articles of merchandise; and the whole constitutional power of Congressover interstate commerce"
"We favor such an enlargement of the scope of the interstate commerce law as will enable the commission to protect individuals and communities from discrimination, and the public from unjust and unfair transportation rates."
"In the interest of American labor and the uplifting of the workingman,as the cornerstone of the prosperity of our country, we recommend that Congresscreate a Department of Labor, in charge of a secretary, with a seat in the Cabinet, believing that the elevation of the American laborer will bring with it increased production and increased prosperity to our country athome and to our commerce abroad."

--1900 Democratic Party Platform

44 posted on 04/26/2002 10:19:45 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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