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Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christains in Central Highlands...
Green Berets for Human Rights ^ | 4-18-2002 | JOHN HANSCOM - Green Berets for Human Rights

Posted on 04/29/2002 6:46:40 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET

From JOHN HANSCOM - Green Berets for Human Rights @.. www.gb4hr.com ..

KERRY (D-MA) Kills Human Rights

WASHINGTON - Despite growing calls from human rights groups, US Army Special Forces veterans, and pleas from homeless refugees fleeing genocide Senate JOHN KERRY (D-MA) has successfully stalled the Vietnam Human Rights Act (Senate Bill HR-2833) for over half a year.

...The stalled Bill would have sanctioned the communist Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) against further racially based sterilization, terrrorism and genocide of the Christain hilltribe Degar peoples living in the Central Highlands region of the country.

...Why is Senator KERRY stalling this vital human rights legislation?

...The Degar tribes people, commonly known to westerners as the -MONTAGNARDS-, are ethnically unrelated to the Vietnamese. The Central Highlands region was never a traditional part of Vietnam. The region has been the home of the Degar tribes for at least a ..1,000.. years.

...With HR-2833 stalled by JOHN KERRY of Massachussetts, the DRV is free to continue without restriction its ethinic cleansing of the Degar Christains in the Central Highlands region in an attempt to gain control of the Degar land and resources.

...As recently as 1970 there were an estimated ..3,000,000.. Montagnards in various tribes living in the region but as a result of Vietnam's ongoing compaign of ethnic terror and extermination, the total population of Montagnards is now ...BELOW 650,000...!!!

...Nearly two thirds of the Montagnards have died in only 32 years, including more than half the male population. This is undisguised genocide.

...This is why HR-2833 was passed without delay through the House of Representatives last summer by a margin of 411 to 1 to bring an immediate halt to this tragic situation. The Bill was then rushed to the Senate where immediate passage was expected due to the urgency of the current situation.

...Then JOHN KERRY entered the picture and people kept dying.

...For over 7 months now, since early September 2001 Senator JOHN KERRY of Massachussetts has deliberately thwarted all attempts to bring HR-2833 to the floor for a vote.

...KERRY deliberate sabotage of the most urgent human rights legislation since the 1950's has caused grave concern in the human rights community, especially because there is no explanation for his position and all attempts to contact the Senator on this issue have been ignored by his office.

...JOHN KERRY needs to do some explaining before this gets worse.

...The Daily Catholic is listing JOHN KERRY as a .."HEROD's HERO".. for having the second worst human rights record in the US Congress.

...A Montagnard source informed us it was common knowledge in the mid-1970's Degar community that there were serious business dealings involving KERRY and the late Secretary of Commerce RON BROWN with the new incoming communist DRV government. Windfall profits of more than ..$500,000.. each for both RON BROWN and JOHN KERRY were reported by this source. A source outside the Degar community relates that KERRY has proposed future business dealings with the communist Democratic Republic of Vietnam.

...Several sources within the US military recall how JOHN KERRY was given a questionable medal for heroism for shooting a man who was already dead or dying in exchange for KERRY's recommending a paper medal in return for another Navy 'hero' who was anxious to get a decoration before his tour was over.

...Has Senator JOHN KERRY been pressured by the DRV to kill or stall Bill HR-2833 in exchange for silence and future favors? Is this why Senator KERRY is so eager to grant Most Favored Nation (MFN) trade status for the DRV?

...KERRY's inaction on HR-2833 allows the DRV's genocide and sterilization programs in the Central Highlands region to continue today. Is Senator KERRY going to stall HR-2833 until the region is under complete control of the Vietnamese, all the Degar Montagnard peoples driven out or killed, before KERRY allows the Vietnam Human Rights onto the Senate floor for a vote?

Copyright 2002 Green Berets for Human Rights

www.gb4hr.net

NEVER FORGET


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2004; communismkills; genocide; kerry; kerrykills; montagnards; vietnamchristians
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...I fondly remember these Central Highland Tribes people as being a sweet people during my tour there during the 1st Major Battle Operations of the Vietnam War in 1965-66.

The Communists of Vietnam have always seen them as a Target.

...So then must Senator JOHN KERRY (D-MA)...???

...Call the Capitol Switchboard @ 202 225-3121...

and ask to talk to Senator KERRY's Office ASAP. ...I sure have.

Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965, Central Highlands - Free South Vietnam / See.. www.LzXray.com

NEVER FORGET

1 posted on 04/29/2002 6:46:41 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
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2 posted on 04/29/2002 6:53:38 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
double bump
3 posted on 04/29/2002 6:54:24 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Reformjoy;Snow Bunny;VOA;RonDog;VOA;68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub;Angelwood;Republic;Registered...
...The Genocide being forced upon the Christian Degar Tribes People of the Central Highlands in a once Free South Vietnam by the controlling Communist Vietnamese ...with Sen. JOHN KERRY (D-MA) support...

...is discussed today during the 1st hour of Former Congressman BOB DORNAN's National Talk Radio Show heard Live on.. www.TalkRadioNetwork.com ..and Live/tape-delayed in 42 different Radio Markets around the country.

...So. California will be hearing BOB DORNAN tonight @ 7-9pm Pacific Time on KPLS 830 AM ..Radio on the Right'..

4 posted on 04/29/2002 6:56:16 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Very interesting, Ronnie. Recently, I saw a History Channel program about the Montagnards, also other tribal people who fought along with the Green Berets. They were described as extremely loyal to the Green Berets and would not agree to fight alongside anyone else. Because of the language barrier, a type of sign language was developed among them. They are described as anti-Communist, and are now being persecuted.

Why Kerry would take such an attitude against these people (some remain there who did in fact fight alongside our troops), God only knows; but then, why God created Kerry is beyond me.

5 posted on 04/29/2002 6:57:18 PM PDT by katze
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BTTT
6 posted on 04/29/2002 6:59:38 PM PDT by IoCaster
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
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7 posted on 04/29/2002 7:05:43 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
The Daily Catholic is listing JOHN KERRY as a .."HEROD's HERO".. for having the second worst human rights record in the US Congress.

I had no idea. Why the press silence (pretend we expect journalistic ethics here)? Thank you for the heads up, Ronnie...and thank Bob Dornan. Will pass this on...

8 posted on 04/29/2002 7:06:28 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: onedoug
Thought you may have and interest in this.
9 posted on 04/29/2002 7:06:36 PM PDT by donozark
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To: katze
...During the Vietnam War JOHH KERRY was a Partner of our Communist Vietnamese Enemy who he wanted to win the Vietnam War.

...There's been NO CHANGE SINCE as Sen. JOHN KERRY rushed to the Los Angeles International Airport to recieve a much needed $10,000 Campaign Gift from China Army Spy JOHN HUANG in the closing days of his last Senatorial Campaign to help pay for a last minute TV Media Blitz to take him over the top.

10 posted on 04/29/2002 7:43:42 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the explanation.
11 posted on 04/29/2002 7:48:34 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Chi-townChief;SJackson;katze;Hockeypop;donozark
...To see the Plei Me Special Forces Montagnard Camp of 1965 that was then fighting invading North Vietnam Communist Army Regulars in the Central Highlands on the 1st Day of the Battle of IA DRANG-1965 go to the:

.. www.LzXray.com .. 'Ia Drang - Interest'..Section's..

..'Ronnie Guyer Photo Collection' - Set #1..

12 posted on 04/29/2002 8:02:49 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I recently reread Dr. Tom Dooley's historic book Deliver Us From Evil which tells of his time, immediately after the 1954 accords ended the French-Indochina war, running the refugee camp at Haiphong through which some 600,000 North Vietnamese passed trying to escape to the south. From the very beginning North Vietnam persecuted Catholics, and Dooley describes some of this in sickening detail - school children bound and mutilated by having chopsticks shoved into their ears so that they could no longer listen to religious teachings, priests hung upside-down and beaten almost to death with bamboo sticks, etc. Perhaps allowing this bill to pass is too threatening to the likes of Kerry because it might bring back to the public some reminder of how evil the Communist Vietnamese really were, and help point up just how bass and corrupt he and his fellow-traveler "anti-war" ilk really are......
13 posted on 04/29/2002 9:14:47 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I've been to Pleiku and Kontum, back in the war years. In Kontum, Dr Pat Smith ran a hospital for the "Yards", and you can't imagine anything so primitive. There were beds, probably queen-sized by our standards, and as many as 5, maybe more, women with their just-born babies on each bed. The mattresses were bare, terribly stained, but it was the best Dr Smith could do, since she rec'd so little support, and it was a luxury to the women. What is considered poor in our country, is extreme wealth to the VN tribal people.

I now remember about Kerry getting the money from Huang. Seems old bloodhound-faced Kerry will do about anything for money, incl marriage and campaign.

14 posted on 04/29/2002 9:23:39 PM PDT by katze
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To: Intolerant in NJ
...I remember newly installed President JFK calling Dr. TOM DOOLEY an American Hero in early 1961 for helping the peoples of the former French Indo-China stand up to invading Communism as JFK looked forward himself to an uncertain future there.
15 posted on 04/29/2002 9:33:51 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: katze
...What a picture...

...Americans treat Montagnards with LOVE...

...KERRY and the Communist Vietnamese treat them like they were an old stained mattress.

...Time to give KERRY a call to return the favor...?

16 posted on 04/29/2002 9:38:40 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thank You for brining this to my attention.
I WILL be acting upon this.
17 posted on 04/29/2002 10:08:54 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
What can you expect from a liberal M@$$hole?

I have 4 of Don Bendell's books on the war.
(Click on 'Author')

18 posted on 04/29/2002 10:46:27 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
It seems that suffering and dying will not end for the faithful Montagnards, until all are dead. I think we would have done better to have brought them all out with us. We betrayed them..
Semper Fi
19 posted on 04/30/2002 12:01:29 AM PDT by river rat
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...For over 7 months now, since early September 2001 Senator JOHN KERRY of Massachussetts has deliberately thwarted all attempts to bring HR-2833 to the floor for a vote.

It sounds like Senator John Kerry is doing his best to keep this bill from the floor because it would make China "look bad."

Who does this Senator work for anyway???

20 posted on 04/30/2002 12:10:22 AM PDT by reformjoy
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Perhaps allowing this bill to pass is too threatening to the likes of Kerry because it might bring back to the public some reminder of how evil the Communist Vietnamese really were, and help point up just how bass and corrupt he and his fellow-traveler "anti-war" ilk really are......

And we don't want to make "Communist" an ugly word, since the Communist Chinese are so helpful to Ambitious Democrats. Just what do the Chinese want from our Democrats anyway???

21 posted on 04/30/2002 12:14:52 AM PDT by reformjoy
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To: Aloha Ronnie
post 20... I mixed up the Communist Vietnamese and the Communist Chinese... how the heck did I do that? Must be that Communist thing...
22 posted on 04/30/2002 12:17:02 AM PDT by reformjoy
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
...Acting to save the Montagnard/Degars =

...That's just ..OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!

23 posted on 04/30/2002 8:58:51 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: donozark
Thanks, donozark, for the flag. You flatter me.

I wish I could say something positive about this. I think ultimately there may also be land and coffee tied up in this business. The communists have long seen the tourism value of their ethnic "hill tribes". And I can't help but wonder why christianity should pose such a problem "westward" as these days the old "Redball" is dotted unabashedly with Christian churches at least from Quang Ngai well up into the north toward Vinh.

Fear of propoganda may be a factor too, where groups related to US Special Forces veterans have aimed powerful radio transmitters broadcasting Christian programming from the Philippenes specifically directed at Montangard groups. Though Nong Duc Manh came to the Party General Secretaryship as a "reformer", it really seems sad that he can't see that it would benefit Vietnam so much more to put that philosophy into practice.

24 posted on 04/30/2002 9:16:46 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: All
...Green Berets for Human Rights = www.gb4hr.net...
25 posted on 04/30/2002 9:31:56 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Time to visit that website. The "best of the best" may have a little to say to Kerry.

The History Channel program also told that most of the Montagnards who came to the States settled near Ft Bragg. If only we could count on the Afghanis to be as loyal, we'd have the remaining alQuaeda by the short ones in a hurry.

26 posted on 04/30/2002 12:05:17 PM PDT by katze
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To: katze
...Great Post = Great Reality...
27 posted on 04/30/2002 12:22:57 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Dooley was a remarkable person...I recall seeing him on TV a number of times during his visits back to the US from southeast asia...he was actually attempting to build support for his medical mission in Vietnam and Laos, but he also talked of many of the atrocities he had seen committed against the people by the various communist regimes in the region...he more than any other single person may have been responsible for alerting the country to what was going on in Vietnam and shaping opinions about it...those who find it so easy to dismiss our involvement there as misguided or immoral should be required to read some of Dooley's books - I don't think any civilized nation could have walked away from the savagery he described...
28 posted on 04/30/2002 3:08:30 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ
...How very well shared about Dr. TOM DOOLEY's influence on JFK's formed perspective of the Evilness of the S.E. Asian Communists' attacks on Human Beings 40 years ago ...soon to be exhibited BIG TIME in The Killing Fields of Cambodia.

...JFK learned. KERRY refused to.

...For more ..please access the various...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"/Battle of IA DRANG-1965/WTC Hero RICK RESCORLA of New Jersey.. Freerepublic.com Article Threads on my Bookmarked List...

...simply by accessing the.. ALOHA RONNIE ..on this Post.

ALOHA

29 posted on 04/30/2002 4:53:36 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: intolerant in NJ;Joy Angela;Snow bunny;VOA;68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub;generalissimoduane;katze...
NEVER FORGET

...With nearly 3,000,000 Christain Degars losing their lives in the Central Highlands of a once Free South Vietnam after the Communists from the North took control 27 years ago...

...Senator KERRY's (D) Office finally returned my call of weeks ago.

...A very nice sounding ..KATE RHUDY..

...@ 202 224-2742...

...stated to me that the reason Senator KERRY (D) will continue holding up HR-2833 from going to the Senate Floor for a vote to Sanction Communist Vietnam for the Death of the Degar, with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run.

...I asked her how the Communist Vietnamese eliminating nearly 3,000,000 Christain Degars is "Better" for them...?

...Would Senator KERRY (D) be acting the same way about this if it were all happening to Christains in Central California, rather than Central South Vietnam...?

...Why don't we let the ..KERRY/McCAIN.. Team know just how we feel about this "Little" Number of theirs...???

NEVER FORGET

30 posted on 06/04/2002 1:44:08 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE;donozark
Thanks for the flags guys.

This is kinda hard to figure. A couple of years ago there were American and French tourists ranging all over these areas, as the SRV government was touting its "Hill Tribes" as obviously lucrative to that industry.

I still sense the real issue is coffee, as these are some of the best growing regions in the country and region, and the ethnic Vietnamese (and commie government) want as much of that trade as they can get.

But all of the world's commie states have also publically declared their support for their "revolutionary" brethren in the so-called palestinian intifada too, and there could be some reflections of that in this.

Damned commies want to have it both ways. Big surprise, eh?

31 posted on 06/04/2002 2:34:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: katze
Click on 'Author'

His 4 books:
B-52 Overture
Snake Eater
Valley Of Tears
Crossbow

are all about fighting with the Montagnards.
Most are available on the web.

32 posted on 06/04/2002 5:13:05 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
May Kerry rot in hell with Hitler!
33 posted on 06/04/2002 5:13:45 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Can do, Ronnie. Gutless wonders, both of them.
34 posted on 06/04/2002 5:18:09 PM PDT by katze
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To: rockfish59
Thanks, I'll check it out.
35 posted on 06/04/2002 5:19:26 PM PDT by katze
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...stated to me that the reason Senator KERRY (D) will continue holding up HR-2833 from going to the Senate Floor for a vote to Sanction Communist Vietnam for the Death of the Degar, with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run... ...Would Senator KERRY (D) be acting the same way about this if it were all happening to Christains in Central California, rather than Central South Vietnam...?

Thanks for the ping. At least the Senators are honest, what’s the death of a few “rustic” Christians when there’s money to be made.

Re your second point, let the Senators know how many Christians in California are we talking about, what’s the racial composition, and who is donating to who and what are the contributions looking forward, and they’ll get back to you.

CA is a long way from Mass, close to Az, so the "Senator Vets" may split on that one.

36 posted on 06/04/2002 5:46:08 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: onedoug
This is kinda hard to figure. A couple of years ago there were American and French tourists ranging all over these areas, as the SRV government was touting its "Hill Tribes" as obviously lucrative to that industry.

I have an acquaintance involved with tourism to the "hill tribes" in Thailand, Hmong I think, though they import them from other areas, Cambodia I think. Not all that lucrative, not nearly enough to bid on a Senator.

37 posted on 06/04/2002 5:50:38 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for bringing attention to this atrocity!! I'll call tomorrow!! Flagged until then!!
38 posted on 06/04/2002 5:52:01 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...Why is Senator KERRY stalling this vital human rights legislation?

Because Mrs. Heinz won't ease up on her jerk chain?

39 posted on 06/04/2002 5:55:27 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: ALOHA RONNIE,all
...Why don't we let the ..KERRY/McCAIN.. Team know just how we feel about this "Little" Number of theirs...???

Senator John Kerry

Washington 202-224-2742
Fax 202-224-8525
or E Mail the Senator

Senator John McCain

Phone # (202) 224-2235
Fax # (202) 228-2862
E-mail address: John_McCain@McCain.senate.gov

40 posted on 06/04/2002 5:56:44 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...I remember newly installed President JFK calling Dr. TOM DOOLEY an American Hero in early 1961 for helping the peoples of the former French Indo-China stand up to invading Communism as JFK looked forward himself to an uncertain future there.

Too bad Dooley had an embarrassing "problem" in his personnel file.

41 posted on 06/04/2002 5:58:02 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Has anyone posting here actually read the text of this bill? Well golly, if we passed one of these against the People's Republic of China, we will do away with communism there. I never realized a piece of do nothing legislation could be so powerful.
42 posted on 06/04/2002 6:14:34 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
...If not a powerful piece of Legislation then WHY are the KERRY-McCAIN Twins so adament about killing HR-2833, I wonder...???
43 posted on 06/04/2002 6:37:27 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Doe Eyes
Has anyone posting here actually read the text of this bill? Well golly, if we passed one of these against the People's Republic of China, we will do away with communism there. I never realized a piece of do nothing legislation could be so powerful.

Type in h.r. 2833

The purpose, The purpose of this Act is to promote the development of freedom and democracy in Viet Nam

You could substitute a number of nations for Viet Nam. The reason this...do nothing (proposed)legislation could be so powerful is precisely the reason it will be nothing more that porposed.

44 posted on 06/04/2002 7:27:58 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
porposed is proposed.
45 posted on 06/04/2002 7:28:38 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
... "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run...thanks for the ping - e-mailed both Mc and Kerry reminding them that the senate had betrayed the Vietnamese people once by refusing to fund our commitment to assist them when the communists violated the Paris accords, and not to make the same mistake again by at least passing 2833. These two were probably first in line to endorse the sanctions against South Africa to defeat apartheid, but suddenly feel it's too important to stay "engaged" in VN to even express outrage over what 's happening there - hypocrits......
46 posted on 06/05/2002 9:44:24 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ
...You are SO Right On.

...Nail the KERRY-McCLINTON Twins...

47 posted on 06/05/2002 10:11:59 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: SJackson; Chi-townChief; Fred Mertz; VOA; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
NEVER FORGET


...Many, many thanks to the Vietnamese Community's posting of this Freerepublic.com Thread about a Man who would be President of the United States,

...after receiving China Army Money from China Army Spy JOHN HUANG...

...and personally intervening on behalf of the Vietnamese Communists who are just killing off the Degar People in a once Free South Vietnam with a U.S. Senator on their side.


Thank you..

http://www.Vietpage.com ..


NEVER FORGET
48 posted on 11/26/2002 9:02:40 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Carl/NewsMax; Judicial Watch; Matt Drudge; Joe Montana; JLO; FreddieKruger; RonDog
NEVER FORGET
49 posted on 11/27/2002 6:01:26 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Alouette; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; ...
AR, thanks for the reminder.

======================================

A bump to both my ping lists, because this communist outrage is ongoing.

From a related thread,

Communism was the biggest lie of the 20th century and human history.

Communists promised the people bread and gave them bread lines and forced farmers.

Communists promised the people security and gave them the KGB and the Gulag.

Communists promised the people peace and gave them civil wars and unending conflict around the world - resulting in the deaths of 100 million

50 posted on 11/27/2002 4:11:25 PM PST by SJackson
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