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THE SHOCKING GAME
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Posted on 05/04/2002 8:44:54 AM PDT by one2many

### University of Virginia Admissions Predictor

RACE AND UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA ADMISSIONS:
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT YOU'LL GET IN?

The questions focus on several factors that appear to have been important to the University of Virginia in admitting freshmen in 1999. This program is based on and uses all variables available in the Lerner and Nagai analysis (see above in "What's New") of 1999 admissions data provided by the University of Virginia in response to a request for public records filed by the Center for Equal Opportunity. Additional information--such as athletic status, Virginia county of residence, high school reputation, the number of Advanced Placement courses taken, and extracurricular activities--was not made available to Lerner and Nagai and might also affect an individual's probability of admission.

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Math SAT (200-800)

Verbal SAT (200-800)

Class Percentile(100=top in class, 0=bottom)

Resident (1= live in VA, 0=otherwise)

Sex (0= male, 1= female)

The probability of your having been admitted into the 1999 freshman class at the University of Virginia is like a batting average. For example, a probability of 1.000 is guaranteed admission. A probability of .500 is an even chance of admission. A probability of .000 is no chance of admission.

If you believe you were denied admission to the University of Virginia because of your race or ethnic background, you may wish to discuss the matter with a lawyer. The Center for Equal Opportunity believes that discrimination based on race or ethnicity in college admissions is against the law.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: action; affirmative; airlinesafety; brainsurgery; discrimination; equalaccess; quotas; reverse
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HOW TO KILL A NATION.

Go to the actual page and play the game.
Use your imagination. Put in 350 MATH and 350 VERBAL
and observe the shocking FACTS!

1 posted on 05/04/2002 8:44:54 AM PDT by one2many

To: one2many
2 posted on 05/04/2002 8:47:23 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

To: Twodees
This system is unfair to all.

Truly qualified blacks are permanently suspect.

Truly qualified whites are knocked off the economic ladder associated with the "better" schools.

The American people get a dangerous corps of poorly qualified "professionals".

3 posted on 05/04/2002 8:49:14 AM PDT by one2many

To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Verily.

Did you play the game?

4 posted on 05/04/2002 8:50:02 AM PDT by one2many

To: one2many
This would make a great web site. Choose the university you would like to attend , enter your GPA, SAT, race, sex, age and see the probablity (based on historical data) that you would be accepted. See what the answer would have been if you were a different sex. Different race. Different age.

Probably GPA & SAT differences wouldn't matter a lot.

5 posted on 05/04/2002 8:52:00 AM PDT by gitmo

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To: LarryLied; MyPetMonkey
seen dis?
7 posted on 05/04/2002 8:53:09 AM PDT by one2many

To: gitmo
Yeah it would be nice to see it expanded. As it is though it is quite the eye-opener. Did you play with the numbers some?
8 posted on 05/04/2002 8:54:56 AM PDT by one2many

To: superdestroyer
After working in medicine in several years, I would recommend that no one ever go to a physician so graduate from Howard University. They have probably been quotaed through their entire career.

I totally agree.

IMO, this is the most blatent form of racism towards blacks that is possible.

9 posted on 05/04/2002 8:56:49 AM PDT by one2many

To: one2many
THE SHOCKING GAME

Great Article--terrible title. The only thing that would shock me (or anyone else who has been paying attention) would be if candidates with identical qualifications were admitted irrespective of the melanin content of their skin.

10 posted on 05/04/2002 8:58:48 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree

To: one2many
I think this is bogus. My daughter just graduated from UVa. We are white out-of-staters. I've sort of adopted the school because it's so much better than my own alma mater (which has a pretty good reputation of its own). I've been sitting in on classes there now for four years, and I have a pretty good idea of the sort of kids they accept.

I tried 800,800,90 and they only give someone with that record a 60% shot of getting in. Someone with 800,800,90 would have to have something real disqualifying not to get into UVa.

ML/NJ

11 posted on 05/04/2002 9:02:12 AM PDT by ml/nj

To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Great Article--terrible title.

We shall see. It seems to me that creative titles get the attention
of some who might otherwise pass on by....

12 posted on 05/04/2002 9:09:47 AM PDT by one2many

To: ml/nj
I think this is bogus.

I think maybe you should check out the CEOUSA.ORG website more thoroughly before you level that kind of assertion.

13 posted on 05/04/2002 9:12:07 AM PDT by one2many

To: ml/nj
i agree; i'd like to see the sophistication of the algorithm. on the other hand, maybe it picked up 800/800 at 90th percentile graduating gpa as a slacker??? the discrimination at the med school level (state and some private) is much more blatant. this harms the minorities who do have the skills (who are readily evident to their classmates and are out there in larger numbers than ceo.org would lead you to believe). time to end the quota nonsense.
14 posted on 05/04/2002 9:13:56 AM PDT by philomath

To: ml/nj
Oh and BTW, at the ceousa website they also have "calculators" for NC State
and Univ. of Michigan, (Ann Arbor campus I believe)

Check 'em out.

15 posted on 05/04/2002 9:15:02 AM PDT by one2many

To: philomath
this harms the minorities who do have the skills (who are readily evident to their classmates and are out there in larger numbers than ceo.org would lead you to believe).

Actually the first time I went to CEOUSA was to look at one of their studies on Law School Quotas (Virginia). If you go to the site I think you will find that they get into what you mention above quite a bit.

16 posted on 05/04/2002 9:19:12 AM PDT by one2many

To: one2many
thanks for posting this. regardless of ones persuasion on these issues, a good airing of what is truly happening is the best course: let the people see and make their own decisions rather than be led by social engineers of any stripe.
17 posted on 05/04/2002 9:30:29 AM PDT by philomath

To: one2many
I think maybe you should check out the CEOUSA.ORG website more thoroughly before you level that kind of assertion.

I just did.

It doesn't change my mind. Their hearts may be in the right place, but their little form is flawed.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 05/04/2002 9:59:09 AM PDT by ml/nj

To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Excuse_your_error.....

.....UVa is a PRIVATE school ever since its founding by Thomas Jefferson.

19 posted on 05/04/2002 10:06:01 AM PDT by T-Bird45

To: T-Bird45
What do you think would happen if a school, public or private, pulled this kind of racism in favor of white students? Can you honestly tell me the state would have nothing to say about it?

My other post was in error. The state isn't sponsoring this, they're just conveniently looking the other way.

20 posted on 05/04/2002 10:13:43 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity