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Andrew Sullivan: THE FALKLANDS EFFECT
andrewsullivan.com ^ | 05/03/2002 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 05/04/2002 11:41:03 AM PDT by Pokey78

I'm not at all surprised that polls are finding that president Bush's mind-boggling levels of public support cannot be fully explained by the war effect alone. That model was always too crude.

Some leaders will experience an uplift during times of national crisis, but if the public never really respected them, and if the war highlights their weaknesses as much as their stengths, then, as soon as tensions ease, the bubble bursts.

Not so with Bush.

I think the model here is a different one: what the war did is show Americans what kind of man they elected. His calm, determination, ordinariness, sense of humor and sense of grief, resonated. We bonded. That bond will last and be converted into other things.

It does not mean that everyone will agree with his specific policies; but it does mean that his popularity can be used to put extra oomph behind those policies, whatever their popular support.

The best analogy is with Margaret Thatcher during the Falklands War. For her entire period in office, she never won an absolute majority of votes, and always had a strong, if divided, opposition. In polls, most Brits disagreed with her on most issues. But they respected her character, her grit, her steel under fire - and it was the war that revealed this more than anything.

Bush is not like Thatcher. He's far more likeable. He is clearly, in my view, what he would call "a good man."

I came to this realization during the campaign - especially compared to his callow rival.

The media did their best to cloud this view. The New York Times continues to run an incessant campaign against him - from op-eds to news stories. But this time, the public woke up from their usual (and defensible) preoccupations, took a good, long look for themselves, and liked what they saw. Even Californians.

The public looks through ideological litmus tests to, yes, character. And they're right.

That's why I'm not going to join the chorus of conservative criticism of Bush's recent Middle East diplomacy. Sorry, I know he's not a sell-out. I trust him.

For me, this underlying trust helps balance out my occasional worries about policy wobbles or tacks. The same goes for many others, I think, far away from the Washington hot-house.

And it will last.


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1 posted on 05/04/2002 11:41:03 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: summer, Howlin; Miss Marple; mombonn; DallasMike; austinTparty; MHGinTN; RottiBiz; WaterDragon...
Ping for the ASPL.
2 posted on 05/04/2002 11:41:50 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Bush is not like Thatcher.

The understatement of the year!

ML/NJ

3 posted on 05/04/2002 11:52:22 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Pokey78
Sorry, I know he's not a sell-out, I trust him.

Good words about a good man.

4 posted on 05/04/2002 11:56:01 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Pokey78
I know he's not a sell-out.

But his advisers are. CARL ROVE has got to go
5 posted on 05/04/2002 12:01:41 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Pokey78
I was just hinking about The Falkland War the other day; I'm beginning to feel that way about this so-called "war" with Iraq; remmeber how LONG it took the Brits to SAIL to The Falklands? :-)
6 posted on 05/04/2002 12:02:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I guess Andrew Sullivan doesn`t listen to Rush
7 posted on 05/04/2002 12:02:26 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: uncbob
Not your choice.
8 posted on 05/04/2002 12:02:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pokey78
Good Post. Another way to put it, the 9/11 event and the crisis gave us the measure of the man. President Bush passed the test. I too trust Bush not be a sell-out because he has said and done more than enough to prove he is not. Bush is a good leader and a good President.
9 posted on 05/04/2002 12:07:59 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Pokey78
He is clearly..."a good man."

I agree. But if I were Bush, I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable with such a compliment from an unashamed homosexual, as Sullivan advertises he is.

10 posted on 05/04/2002 12:10:29 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
I don't see anything sexual in this article. Did I miss something?
11 posted on 05/04/2002 12:11:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: bybybill
Har!
12 posted on 05/04/2002 12:12:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: AnalogReigns
Post #10. Darn, I had post #18.
13 posted on 05/04/2002 12:13:10 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Howlin
You're correct, no mention of sex in the article---my comment was a bit of a crack on Sullivan--for the benefit of FReepers who may not know a big part of his agenda is gaining respectability of homosexuals by conservatives.

I simply don't trust the moral judgments of unrepentant homosexuals (just as I don't also of unrepentant (a la Clinton) adulterers.). If one is morally confused about sex, one is likely to be morally confused elsewhere too.

14 posted on 05/04/2002 12:22:55 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: WOSG; Howlin
Another way to put it is that the main problems many had with him were not opposition to what he stoof for, but that he ws untried, adn suspicions about how he would act. Now he's been tried, and the suspicians lay at waste, so what is left is that he actually is what he appears.

(I'm still torqued about CFR, but am waiting while it plays out).

15 posted on 05/04/2002 12:27:10 PM PDT by lepton
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To: lepton
So am I!
16 posted on 05/04/2002 12:43:25 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
The sail down to the South Atlantic was great,a free cruise on the QE2. It all went to hell after the landing at San Carlos.

"Don't cry for me, Sergeant-Major" by Robert McGowan is the best "soldiers" view of the escapade.

It is quite strange to look back 20 yrs.(May 21st 1982-landing at San Carlos water) I remember it was cold and wet all the time,yet it was the jokes and comradeship that stick in the mind.

Q.What is the best contraceptive in the world?

A.Excocet Missiles, they kill seamen at 40 miles.

Please note:- when this joke is repeated in a Royal Navy Mess, lead with the jaw.

17 posted on 05/04/2002 12:43:38 PM PDT by ijcr
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To: AnalogReigns
Is that hard, being so morally smug about everything? I myself find it hard to judge other people until I've lived in their shoes, but if you don't, go right ahead.

As far as you posting it so unsuspecting Freepers might not "know" what Sullivan is about, that's a total specious statement.

I think you like to post stuff like that because you don't like homosexuals.

His POLITICAL writings have NOTHING to do with his sexuality, unless he's writing about sex.

18 posted on 05/04/2002 12:45:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ijcr
Did you ever hear Robin Williams' routine about The Falkland Island? Very funny. "Are you my dddaaaaaaaaaa-ddddddddeeeeeeeee?"
19 posted on 05/04/2002 12:47:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pokey78
bump
20 posted on 05/04/2002 1:42:01 PM PDT by Tribune7
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