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You are so right, Alouette.

Even if somebody somewhere might be descended from Abraham, that means absolutely nothing until such time as they both know it, admit it, and start living accordingly and outwardly presenting themselves as such.

If and when that ever happens, AND NOT UNTIL, LT and WT may have a point, and such "self-converts" would, at that time, be deserving of my support, for one, for recognition as a part of the Israeli people.

I now call on LT and WT to get off this thread and leave us alone. What Part of GET LOST, DROP DEAD, don't you understand?

I don't understand what you guys get so exercised about. It looks to me like Mr. Lost Tribe is just bringing out some Biblical facts that are not widely known. Nothing heritical that I've found, just a new way of looking at things. Are you guys minds all up and locked? What are you afraid of?

If you would actually go and check the Bible instead of carrying on like stuck hogs you might actually learn something new. I know I did, and I'm having fun following his posts. It brought me back to studying the Bible, which is more than anything you have done.

Keep at it Lost Tribe! Don't let the ba$tards grind you down!

Even if somebody somewhere might be descended from Abraham, that means absolutely nothing until such time as they both know it, admit it, and start living accordingly and outwardly presenting themselves as such.

I'd have a tendency to want you to cite authority for being the seed of Abraham meaning nothing until being aware of it and admitting it. I'd also like to know how one such lives accordingly and presents themselves as such.

Don't you think God knows who His people are? And, how do you explain:

Hosea 1:
{10] Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

[11] Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

What you have in Hosea is the foundation for a moral mandate for many nations to align themselves with Israel.