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Hate Crimes Bill Lists Sexual Orientation
Family News in Focus ^ | 5/8/02 | Steve Jordahl

Posted on 05/08/2002 7:17:41 AM PDT by truthandlife

The U.S. Senate is considering a hate crimes bill that lists sexual orientation alongside other federally protected categories such as race, color and religion. Opponents point out its inclusion is more a political statement than a real need for protection.

If you read the Local Law Enforcement Act, you might think there is an epidemic of hate crimes against homosexuals in the United States. But according to Matt Kaufman, a contributing editor for Citizen magazine who has reported on the topic, that's not the case.

"Out of more than 15,000 murders in the U.S. overall, two of them were found to be anti-gay," Kaufman said. "Now, every one of those events is awful, but it does not amount to an epidemic that requires new laws when murder is already illegal."

In fact, Kaufman said, hate crimes of any kind are not very common.

"Hate crimes are very rare and the federal government's own numbers confirm this," Kaufman said. "The total number of crimes in the U.S. last year was 11.6 million. Roughly eight ten-thousandths (0.0008) of that number were found to be hate crimes."

Bob Knight, executive director of the Culture and Family Institute of Concerned Women for America, said the recent trend to put hate crimes laws on the books has more to do with politics than law.

"The real game plan is to elevate sexual orientation to a protected class," Knight said.

And that, he said, is a threat to traditional values and the view that homosexuality as an immoral practice.

"If the government adds sexual orientation to law, it immediately places people with traditional values on the wrong side of the law," Knight said.

Currently, the federal government can only prosecute hate crimes if the victim was engaged in a federally protected activity or if the crime occurred on federal property. Passage of the proposed hate crimes bill would extend federal involvement to any crime determined to be motivated by bias.

There are 51 co-sponsors for the Local Law Enforcement Act of 2001, all but ensuring its passage. The bill will have a tougher time, however, in the House of Representatives.


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TAKE ACTION Please contact your senators and ask them to oppose S. 625, the Local Law Enforcement Act of 2001. Call the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121, or if you need help finding out who your senators are and how to contact them, see our Legislative Action Center.
1 posted on 05/08/2002 7:17:42 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife;EdReform;kattracks;wwjdn; conserve-it; Starmaker; erizona; Clint N. Suhks; Khepera...
The U.S. Senate is considering a hate crimes bill that lists sexual orientation alongside other federally protected categories such as race, color and religion. Opponents point out its inclusion is more a political statement than a real need for protection.

There is only one race: "Human Race", we are all "colored" (yes white is also a color although I am not white) and religion is protected (which means you can only abuse people who have religion)...

So who needs protection again?

2 posted on 05/08/2002 7:21:54 AM PDT by wwjdn
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To: truthandlife
Yay, more infringements on the Constitution, yay!
4 posted on 05/08/2002 7:23:09 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: truthandlife
If (when) it passes, be assured W the Mighty Conservative will sign it.
5 posted on 05/08/2002 7:23:35 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: GuillermoX
If (when) it passes, be assured W the Mighty Conservative will sign it.

LOL...........and I'm sure there will be plenty here and elsewhere that will say by signing it, he (Bush) is in the midst of some great plan. :)

5 moves ahead he is!

5 moves ahead on the chess board.

6 posted on 05/08/2002 7:33:02 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: FourtySeven
"He's just taking away an issue from the Dems." "He's doing this to avoid media criticism." "Special rights for homosexuals is not so bad after all, once you really think about it." will be the chant.

Not only that, but they will bash you and trash you for daring to criticize Bush for signing it.

7 posted on 05/08/2002 7:42:25 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: truthandlife
Does anyone know what IS the legal definition of "sexual orientation."

Which bizarre fetishes will be included in time? Will these kind of laws make public expression of such orientation permissable or even legal by making former laws and even prosecutions invalid as acts of hate by the state?

SEXUAL ORIENTATION

homosexuality

bestiality (animal bill of rights?)

polygamy

pedophilia

S&M (will slavery become legal?)

exhibitionists

incest

I am sickened so I can list no longer, but ...

8 posted on 05/08/2002 7:43:42 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: GuillermoX
I agree, he will sign it.
9 posted on 05/08/2002 7:44:58 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: truthandlife
Passage of the proposed hate crimes bill would extend federal involvement to any crime determined to be motivated by bias.

And who will make these "determinations"?
Geez... "hate crime"...Well, I hate that term. If someone is abused or even murdered for whatever reason like money or passion (translate "hate"), then it's a crime, dammit! Why do these liberal-thinkers feel the need to police our thoughts, too???
So if a criminal attacks 'Lola, the transvestite show-girl', because he is a transvestite, this attacker will get more punishment than the criminal who attacks one of my loved ones for just plain ol' robbery? (Eeegads! In that case, I suppose we are just supposed to feel sorry for the poor hungry criminal that had to steal to eat [sob!])

10 posted on 05/08/2002 7:50:43 AM PDT by scan58
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To: PaxMacian
bestiality (animal bill of rights?)

I've always said, if homosexuality is ok, why not beastiality or necrophillia? No one who supports homosexuality because it "doesn't hurt anyone" has an answer to that question. Beasiality and necrophillia don't "hurt anyone", do they?

I would really like to hear the answer to it too.

11 posted on 05/08/2002 7:55:01 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: truthandlife
Bump
12 posted on 05/08/2002 7:57:33 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: PaxMacian
Don't forget transexuals, transvestites, and cross-dressers.


13 posted on 05/08/2002 8:04:59 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: PaxMacian
SEXUAL ORIENTATION . . . homosexuality . . . bestiality . . . (animal bill of rights?). . . polygamy . . . pedophilia . . . S&M (will slavery become legal?) . . . exhibitionists . . . incest

Don't forget necrophilia, coprophilia, transvestism etc.

There is NO reason why any of these behaviors would not be encompassed within the hate crimes bill as proposed. It is not a bill to protect homosexual orientation in particular, but sexual orientation in general.

The fact that the underlying behavior inclination--if acted out--would be illegal in its own right wouldn't matter. Suppose a pedophile has just been convicted of sexually assaulting a dozen children. While he is out on bail and awaiting sentencing, a few neighbors see him talking to a child, become enraged, and physically assault him. They have very likely committed not just an unlawful assault under state law (which would be the case in any event), but a hate crime under federal law as well. They are subject to increased criminal penalties even though the object of their anger committed heinous crimes against children (which, oddly enough, would not be considered "hate crimes").

The federal legislation thus elevates the convicted pedophile to exalted victim status.

14 posted on 05/08/2002 8:07:32 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
The federal legislation thus elevates the convicted pedophile to exalted victim status.

Oh my, you are so right and that is just so sickening. Just thinking about this whole thing and how it can domino is more than pathetic.

15 posted on 05/08/2002 8:14:36 AM PDT by scan58
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To: scan58
And, as a victim of a hate-crime, the pedophile would quite likely be entitled to special federal victim compensation and services, paid by you--the taxpayer.
16 posted on 05/08/2002 8:30:59 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: wwjdn
other federally protected categories such as race, color and religion

Why is innate condition comparable to behavioral choices? Next they’ll be wanting protected status for booger eaters, ass pickers and “nerds”. All animals are equal except some animals are more equal than others.

17 posted on 05/08/2002 8:32:45 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: sixtycyclehum
Not to mention that gays are about a billion times more likely to be involved in domestic violence.
19 posted on 05/08/2002 8:37:57 AM PDT by Dakmar
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