Posted on 05/08/2002 11:12:15 AM PDT by VinnyTex
Shortly after Israel was shaken to the core over the Lavon Affair. Israeli intelligence agencies gets more credit than they are due. The "If he really did it, he would have done it differently" argument is used by criminal defense attorneys all the time. It doesn't work.
I just find it difficult that the Mossad would be this stupid.
Who knows who it was. Israel's Bay of Pigs, the Lavon Affair, was another agency (they say). Sometimes being too good is bad. Our CIA has been over confident they could get away with anything and got burned.
My guess is something was going on, 9/11 caught everyone by surprise, people who weren't supposed to be nabbed, got nabbed and both Israel and the US want this to go away.
A mistake. Better to take the intel and/or PR hit and get the information out.
and don't forget all the secrets they sold to the russians....
But that's fine too because they are our best friends, God's chosen, a people of peace. If they steal our sensitive technology and sell it to our enemies for their own profit, well then we should be happy we were able to give them something that helped.
Reminds me of a hauntingly applicable bumper sticker I saw once..."God, save me from your people".
It's surprising the number of wails raised by freepers about slick willie's "deals" with the chinese, but not a peep from this forum when the Isrealiis do the same thing.
I guess some folks are more comfortable with the cartoon version of politics and religion.
I agree. It appears some freepers have learned much from the Klintons.
Yeah, I dismissed the view that the 9-11 attacks were a Mossad operation, coordinated with the CIA, just about as unceremoniously.
The reason many of us dismissed this is because it has never been presented with one single shred of serious positive evidence. Just speculation, mystery-mongering about unmysterious events, and a deep desire to believe the worst of Israel.
The reason many of us dismissed it vociferously is because posters like you have grabbed it with both hands and waved it around from the start, like you do any number of other fairy tales in which Israel plays the heavy. And, granted that our support for Israel could sway us, we know that your hate has blinded you in both eyes.
This is the point in the script at which you fire off a wounded reply saying that you don't hate Israel, you're just being attacked because you put America's interests above those of a foreign country, dah dah dah dah. You needn't bother as far as I'm concerned. Save it for someone who might believe it.
100% pure unadulterated Clinton.
The same phrases even.
Fox News, The Florida Sun Sentinel, The Washington Times, Salon, The Forward, WFAA in Dallas, The Palm Beach Post, Jane's Intelligence Review, Insight Magazine and others have reported this and you claim it is all make up by Israel haters.
For your information, the mid east, Israel and Jews were never of much interest to me in the 4 years I've posted on this forum until this spy story. I became intrigued because a group of people jumped on anyone who expressed interest in the story when it was first posted several months ago. It was and an obvious attempt to intimidate, smear and drive people off this forum. And the same tactics continue today.
Unfortunately I'm a little tied up for the rest of the day and don't have time to do justice to either thread topic, but I do have thoughts on both and I'll try to post something coherent tonight or tomorrow, m'kay?
What do you think about the marketing of the phony "art student" schlock? I can see, maybe, selling it to rubes in NYC and other major cities but out here in the heartland people are more sophisticated than that.
The speed with which those found with fake visas and fake green cards after 9/11 were deported suggests the fix was in somewhere.
What do you think about the marketing of the phony "art student" schlock? I can see, maybe, selling it to rubes in NYC and other major cities but out here in the heartland people are more sophisticated than that.
Sounds like sales patter to me. I've heard worse. Furthermore I have a background in high-end retail and I will freely admit I've SAID worse myself.
Anyway, even some of the rubes in NYC believe that the giant-sofa-size painting they bought for $75 at the "Starving Artists" sale out at the Newark Hilton really is the work of an artist down on his luck, and not the end product of an assembly line. Go figure.
The speed with which those found with fake visas and fake green cards after 9/11 were deported suggests the fix was in somewhere.
Fast and slow are relative terms. I will have to read both articles before deciding whether anyone was deported "speedily" or not, and as I said, today ain't the time. My presence is absolutely required out in the three-dimensional world today, and I have to leave soon.
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