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Are You Liberal Or Conservative?
ToogoodReports ^ | May 12, 2002 | Ben Cerruti

Posted on 05/10/2002 8:26:22 AM PDT by Starmaker

The answer to this question, as used in political connotation, requires an understanding of the respective terms. This process involves the semantics of their use in discourse.

It stands to reason that a mutual understanding of the words and terms when utilized in discussions is required for communication between the parties involved to convey true meaning to the discourse. This is especially true when the words and terms are expressed in ideological and political platforms and through the media to the public at large. Unfortunately the dictionary usually only deals in defining words and is insufficient in providing the required semantical definition necessary for one to clearly obtain true meaning in their actual application.

To further confuse the issue, we find in conversation the interchange of the words liberal with being — to the left — and conservative as being — to the right. This apparently arose from the use of the terms in the parliaments of foreign countries; the parts of the parliamentary chambers located to the right and left of the presiding officers accordingly representing conservative and liberal elements respectively. Adding additional complication we find, at times, connotations used tying — to the far right — as tending towards fascism and — to the far left — towards socialism or even communism.

Unfortunately, these terms are flagrantly interchanged by activists, politicians and those in the media. This results in the public receiving distorted and frequently misrepresentation of the facts. Our interest here is to the mis-information being conveyed to the American people that accordingly distorts their ability to clearly understand the meaning of the rhetoric to which they are exposed.

Looking to the past, it is no wonder that confusion exists regarding the understanding of what the terms liberal and conservative really mean. It is only in the last century that the term liberal has become associated with socialism. This collectivist ideology involves the redistribution of income and wealth with an accordingly greater control by the central government over the interactions of economic enterprise. Prior to this evolutionary change, being liberal had the reverse meaning of being in strong support of individual freedom with an attendant limited role of government in one´s life.

The term liberalism was coined in Europe somewhere in the late 17th or early 18th century to represent a political philosophy that emphasized limited government with individual freedom and civil liberties. It promoted representative government and property rights along with freedom of religion In economic matters it favored non-interference from government since the forces of the marketplace would provide the best results for the nation´s people. Thus, at its prime liberalism represented limited government with a separation of powers among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches and economic free enterprise. Sounds like present day conservatism doesn´t it?

The term conservatism was coined to represent beliefs that arose to counter liberalism . Essentially, it supported the existing distribution of power, wealth and attendant social status. These beliefs included emphasizing faith and tradition ahead of freedom of thought and speech, as well as, supporting the total interest of society over those of its individual members. Sounds to a degree like present day liberalism doesn´t it?

Unlike Europe, America in the process of enacting a Constitution had developed political beliefs that included economic individualism and the limitation of government power. This was incorporated into the Constitution. This did not follow the beliefs underlying European conservatism but was in fact closer to European liberalism. The American beliefs accepted the concepts of a free market and the personal acquisition of property by individuals. Individual freedoms and property rights were representative of attendant moral, religious, political, and civil rights. As the provisions of the Constitution decreed, the federal government was limited to acting in those areas wherein the states themselves did not have that ability, in inter-state matters and in foreign relations. Great importance was placed on separation of powers, judicial review, and states' rights as opposed to federal power. This then became the foundation of American conservatism.

Entering into the 20th century Americans generally accepted these principles that were to carry the conservative label. However, there was a political movement evolving that could now be endowed with the new label of liberalism, American style, that had beliefs that government should be more involved in social issues and in controlling the free market. Since the economy had become more complex as it expanded , these liberal elements began to support the idea that the government could best promote the interests of its citizens by regulating the economy and having government provide for the welfare of its citizenry. In addition they wanted government to correct economic deficiencies they believed to be caused by unregulated capitalism. They supported progressive taxation, antitrust laws, a minimum wage, social security, public education, safety and health regulations, consumer protection and environmental preservation laws. Some of them became socialists, although not necessarily openly supporting Marxism and communism.

These elements eventually found a way, albeit gradually, to change the course of government. The federal government, supported by three quarters of the state legislatures, aided and abetted these elements in enacting the 16th Amendment to the Constitution in 1913 taxing the income of wage earners. Although at first it placed only a nominal tax on those with extraordinarily high incomes, with time it evolved into a broad based tax on virtually all income. The federal government was now able to usurp those states rights enumerated under the Constitution, redirecting income taxes collected from residents of one state to the benefit of residents of other states and to federal programs that in the past may have been entrusted to the actions of individual states.

The American liberal received another big boost with passage of a package of social programs entitled — The New Deal. President Franklin D. Roosevelt I introduced the New Deal in 1933 in an attempt to reverse the economic downturn and provide for those in society having been adversely affected economically by the great depression following the stock market crash in 1929. This New Deal legislation placed restraints on the free market activities, allowed government to intervene in the economy, heavily increased taxes and increased the size of government. However, it took the sale of materials to our future allies and then later for our own use at home, and the tightening of the belts by those Americans supporting our troops, to bring the economy back to relatively normal.

During this period American conservatism developed adherents that did not approve of the New Deal and promoted the resurgence of a free-market economy. They continued in this pursuit and in the presidential election of 1964 conservative Republicans supported Barry Goldwater whose book — The Conscience of a Conservative — espoused the principles of conservatism. Although he lost the election conservative beliefs continued to be espoused and in 1980, Ronald Reagan a strong supporter of Goldwater, took over the conservative mantel, ran and won the Presidency. His call for patriotism, religious and moral values, as well as, strong opposition to high taxes, government controls, and federal spending was the motivation for his support by the majority of Americans.

With this background perhaps we have the foundation to simplify the meaning of the terms, as they apply to an individual American, with which we are dealing in the light of today´s world. Let´s try for definitions that can be easily understood after delineating and reviewing what has been stated heretofore.

Conservatism — from the foregoing we find that this term conveys the following:

  1. A free market and the personal acquisition of property by individuals.
  2. Individual freedoms and property rights are representative of attendant moral, religious, political, and civil rights.
  3. In accordance with the Constitution, the federal government is limited to acting in those areas wherein the states themselves do not have that ability, in inter-state matters and in foreign relations.
  4. There is great importance placed on separation of powers, judicial review, and states' rights as opposed to federal power.

Simplified Definition:

An ideal conservative believes in the importance of the individual person, including the fetus, and the family structure and that it is the responsibility for the individuals within each family to do as much as they can for themselves before asking for assistance. When assistance is needed the progressive route taken is community, city, county, state and federal, in that order, with the federal government the avenue of last resort. A conservative believes in the least government possible.

Liberalism – from the foregoing we find that this term conveys the following:

  1. Government should correct economic deficiencies caused by an unregulated free market economy.
  2. Government should provide social welfare.
  3. It is right for government to impose progressive income taxation.
  4. Government should impose a minimum wage.
  5. The social security system should remain a system where those working support those who are receiving social security payments.
  6. Government should support only public education forcibly paid for by taxpayers even though some object to some of the subject matter and the manner in which it is taught.
  7. Government should impose stringent safety and health regulations.
  8. Government should impose stringent consumer protection and environmental preservation laws.

Simplified definition:

An ideal liberal takes the completely opposite position to an ideal conservative, vying for a socialistic form of government working from the top down wherein the freedom of the individual is compromised for the anticipated good of the collective group.

Please note that these definitions do not include side issues such as abortion, gun control, immigration, campaign reform etc. Conservatives and liberals may have similar positions without compromising their respective ideal ideology.

In summation, the fundamental difference between a liberal and conservative is whether an individual is allowed the freedom, with attendant responsibility, to freely function in society – or – whether an individual´s interests are subservient to the collective interest of the members of society. One must either be one or the other because once the collective interest takes precedence an individual´s freedom is compromised, then it just becomes a matter of degree as to the extent. A liberal who compromises his ideal ideology may consider himself a moderate liberal but is still a liberal. It is difficult for a conservative to be a moderate conservative because any compromise involves usurping individual freedom and attendant personal responsibility and this would then tend to define him as a moderate liberal.

Now, are you liberal or conservative?

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Ben at ratadv@pacbell.net .


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To: Psycho_Bunny
What is this obsession with when someone signed up???
41 posted on 05/10/2002 11:45:15 AM PDT by The Giant Apricots
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To: cenotaph
I would label that libertarianism, not conservatism.

Liberal and conservative are politically relative terms. Terms like libertarian or socialist are absolute. A socialist in the PRC would be considered conservative, for example. In the context of here and now, conservative would imply holding at least some libertarian beliefs.

43 posted on 05/10/2002 11:50:02 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: The Giant Apricots
There's no obsession....it merely helps everyone understand the playing field.
45 posted on 05/10/2002 11:58:13 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: dax zenos
I'm guessing he/she is dyed in the wool libertarian.

HOWL!!!!!!!

47 posted on 05/10/2002 11:59:52 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: gcruse
Faith and tradition are leftwing values?

In context, yes, I believe they are. He's talking about 17th-18th century Europe. Church and State were one. Faith in God and faith in King were inseperable. You worshipped the state as you worshipped God. Sounds like modern day liberalism to me.

49 posted on 05/10/2002 12:02:27 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Dr. Frank
"In other words, they are 'conservative', in the generic sense."

People keep forgetting that the ideas behind the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are revolutionary ideas!

The backward and hidebound 'third world' is intensely 'conservative' of existing social mores and authority structures.

America is a dangerous force in the world because it is, or has been, the most revolutionary state, in a fundamental sense, of modern times.

Let's all join the American Revolution! lol

Now I'll wait for the rumpsprung reactionaries to boil out of their fetid dens. ;^)

50 posted on 05/10/2002 12:03:43 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: gcruse
Looking at the WOD through the lens . . .

There's the liberdopian problem in a nutshell. Liberdopians see everything through a pro-dope lens--first, last, and always. It is the defining issue of the liberdopians just as sodomy is the defining issue of gay activists.

Hint: there's a broader, far more interesting and complex world out there that your pro-dope myopia would lead you to believe.

Make no mistake about it: liberdopians are not traditional conservatives. They are self-indulgent brats seeking to hide their socialist tendencies with a figleaf of conservatism.

55 posted on 05/10/2002 12:12:10 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: cenotaph
So you don't believe it's rational to state that gays kill and maim each other by engaging in willful behavior that spreads vile diseases including AIDS? If it isn't due to their sexual behavior, whose is it due to? AIDS gnomes? Ronald Reagan?
57 posted on 05/10/2002 12:16:41 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
Comes the Revolution, you lot will face some rough justice, I fearlessly predict.

Not that you don't deserve it, mind you. lol!

Leather-licking vassals, such as yourself, may be introduced to new whips to kiss! ;^)

58 posted on 05/10/2002 12:18:55 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Kevin Curry
Actually Kevin, we don't like the methods of the WoD. SWAT teams kicking in people's doors on nightly TV, wiretaps, warrantless searches, seizures without Due Process, the US being the world's biggest jailer, and on and on...

When we see such wide police powers used in outright disregard of the Constitution, when there is not so much as a victim crying "Help, someone did ______ to me", we start to wonder about the nature of our country.

socialist tendencies

You know, we may have our faults but I don't see any collectivism in our camp. Socialism stems from the belief that the group is more important from the individual. Given that, WoD supporters are the socialists in this story.

59 posted on 05/10/2002 12:21:02 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: dax zenos
Is this for the good of society or not?

Ah, so you're a socialist.

60 posted on 05/10/2002 12:23:30 PM PDT by Equality 7-2521
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