Christianity turns the other cheek-Where is the outrage when a church is desecrated?

National Post Online ^ | 05/13/02 | Raymond J. de Souza

[wheezer]

I hope your right, what I've seen disgusts me.

Christians love to fight...as long as it's their fight.

[infowarrior]

It has all been secularized in a sense...

In short, the Church has become "of the world", and is no longer "of the Word". Sadly, this condition is endemic thoughout the organized Curch as a whole, and not just the Catholics...

the infowarrior

[Doc On The Bay]

AWW!! ----C'Mon!!!

When a Dog wishes to declare "Ownership" of a place, (S)He PISSES on it!!

"The Human Animal" is NOT SO FAR REMOVED from this Practise!!

ANYONE who thinks that the Nature & Extent of the Desecration of the Church of the Nativity by Human Waste was "Incidental" needs a Remedial Lesson in Primate Politics!!

The "Mess" in the Church of the Nativity was DELIBERATE!! The HUMAN FILTH was a Religious/Political Statement by the "Islamic Faithful" in the Church.

There is NO OTHER PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION for their lack of respect for the Holy Shrine!

DO YOU IMAGINE that the "occupants" of the "Church of the Nativity" would have left the "Dome of the Rock" in such a state??

THINK!!!--if you are able!

Doc

[CWRWinger]

There is reasonable doubt that the Church of the Nativity is not the actual birthplace of Christ. We know He was born in Bethlehem, but not the exact place. I do not accept the Greek Orthodox tradition.

Besides, the death, burial and resurrection of Christ is far more significant than His birth and birthplace.

Yes, the church has historical significance and what the Arabs did was vile and wrong.

[JeepInMazar]

Here is a significant passage in John 6:

JOH 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

This passage indicates that coming to Jesus is eating the bread of life, and believing in Jesus is drinking.

I will say that the "breaking of bread" (a biblical phrase, along with "the Lord's table", in contrast to extra biblical phrases and doctrines such as "Eucharist" or "communion") is an extremely important aspect of our fellowship with one another:

ACT 2:42 And they were continually devoting themselves to the apostles' teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.

[JeepInMazar]

Beau Schott: oops, sorry for the confusion.

Jerez: see my post #43

[McGavin999]

Yes, they attempted to desecrate the church, but they didn't succeed. They occupied it, they left their filth there to show their disrespect, but it was cleaned and washed and returned to God. Their hearts, however, can only be cleaned and washed by God. It is THEY who must face God with an explaination of why they blasphemed. Even by their own religion, they blasphemed since Mohammad called Christ holy and a prophet.

OUR faith can not be destroyed by the filth these people spread, OUR church can not be desecrated by these pathetic creatures. They are to be pitied for they will face God with unclean hearts.

[JeepInMazar]

First, places are not sacred to Christianity

I would disagree with you on this point. Christian religion highly values some of these places where Jesus lived.

Biblical teaching, on the other hand, says nothing about holding these places sacred. I think there are a lot of people who strongly adhere to Christian religion, but do not understand what the Bible teaches or they do not care about what the Bible teaches. Instead they prefer their religion.

[JeepInMazar]

2. Christ specificaly said that he came to bring us a sword against those aiming at invading the jurisdictions of those who worshiped him.
and indeed, desecrating his place of worship means we must use his sword that he sent:
[33] But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
[34] Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

First, let me say that I support a strong, biblical view of self defense and believe the 2nd Amendment is a wise application of our God given right to defend ourselves and defend our families and our communities.

Second, I think your points are making very poor use of the context of what Jesus was teaching in Matthew 10 when he states that he did not come to bring peace, but a sword. There are many, many other passages you can use to make your point, but you have taken this passage out of context.

[Doc On The Bay]

Pardon my Lack of Sublety; you are NOT addressing my observation; "Apples & Oranges!!"

The "Muslim's" are PISSING UPON WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE THE BIRTHPLACE OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!!

"Historical 'Niceties' Notwithstanding, the "Palestinian Vermin" who "Occupied" the Church of the Nativity made a "Mammalian Statement of Contempt" in that Holy Place which ANY MAMMAL would understand!!

They "PISSED ON" Christianity!!

EVEN CHRIST "Put a Limit on 'Turning the Other Cheek!!'"

The "Muslims" are STILL unaware of the Sleeping Giant they are harrassing!

SO BE IT!

Doc

[JeepInMazar]

see my post #76.

[JeepInMazar]

The Hagia Sophia wasn't merely desecrated, it was converted to a Mosque.

The Hagia Sophia is the most incredible man made structure I have ever visited. A tour of all the mosques in Istanbul demonstrates that the best of the Muslim/Turkish architecture could not duplicate this magnificent structure.

[lavaroise]

There are many, many other passages you can use to make your point, but you have taken this passage out of context.

Well, fill me in. As far as I know the context was instructing the disciples on their jobs and on what to expect. In addition there is the specific work of healing mentioned, which is hardly a peaceful job, but one of casting out demons and repelling bad people.