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Bush team strikes back against Tancredo
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Posted on 05/13/2002 1:41:59 PM PDT by KantianBurke

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To: RamsNo1
Exactly!!! Bush strikes at republicans but not democrats. Now we are seeing the true nature of this administration

Show me the quote in this article of Bush striking at Republicans. BTW, I can show you the quote of -- you -- striking at Republicans.

201 posted on 05/13/2002 10:02:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RamsNo1
If this illegal alien bill is signed into law, I hope that the next illegal alien wave goes straight for Wash DC.

They already have, we are infested with them as well. We do seem to have a larger number of the Islamic terrorist types around these parts though. They swim in the big ocean of Mexican illegal aliens here. Everybody is happy. Diversity is our strength. /sarcasm.

Read the lastest details below of how disturbing this problem is in the Nations capital, especially post #8 and 17.

INS Agents Arrest Individuals For Manufacture and Sale Of Counterfeit Identification Documents

202 posted on 05/13/2002 10:04:22 PM PDT by healey22
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To: ohioWfan
Right! And the President's hated "Amnesty" is for a few people (not the thousands implied by the haters), who have become illegal because of Government red tape, after being here legally, so that they can be reunited with their families.

No, this is not true.

The Bush Adminstration was the source of the 200,000 number for the Section 245(i) Amnesty... Others had it somewhat higher.

Second, that's not the bulk of the Illegals who'd have qualified for the Amnesty. Most involved in red tape snafus are covered by other subsections of Section 245 of the Immigration and Naturalization Code. 245(i) applies almost exclusively to those who were Illegals from the start...

INS Memo: Sec. 245(i) filings

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment.
Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.

President Bush's 245(i) extension was specifically about illegals. .


How Do I Benefit From Section 245(i)?
(from INS website)

Our immigration laws allow qualified individuals to enter the United States as lawful permanent residents ("green card" holders) after they obtain immigrant visas from a consulate or embassy outside the United States or, for many immigrants already lawfully in the United States, through a process called "adjustment of status." If you entered the United States unlawfully, if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, or if you worked without permission, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States.

You might need section 245(i) if you:

  • Entered the U.S. without being inspected by an INS official.
  • Stayed in the U.S. longer than allowed by INS.
  • Entered the U.S. as a worker on an aircraft or ship (crewman).
  • Entered the U.S. as a "Transit Without Visa."
  • Failed to continuously maintain a lawful status since your entry into the US.
  • Worked in the U.S. without INS permission.
  • Entered as an "S" nonimmigrant (relates to witnesses about criminal or terrorism matters).
  • Are seeking a work-related visa and are out of status at the time of filing the application to adjust status (Form I-485).
  • Worked in the U.S. while being an "unauthorized alien."


LINK

These have been posted numerous times to Amnesty Deniers, but they still persist for reasons inscrutable to me.




203 posted on 05/13/2002 10:06:41 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: mtngrl@vrwc
I do also have to say this; for the most part, I would say that Mexicans are very decent, honest, hard working people. They are people who love their families. I have no hard feelings when it comes to them. They come here, do work that no other Americans will do, and then send money back to their families back in Mexico, or return back to their families.

On average, Mexicans are very decent, honest, hard working people like anybody else.

However, illegals should be sent home and legal immigration should be reduced.

204 posted on 05/13/2002 10:07:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dsutah
Like I said, it only involved a certain group of people. Not large. These people were going through the process, and he was just helping them out a little. It was not the millions that someone suggested, and thought some of the rest of us wouldn't dispute. Please, we have a bit more intelligence than some of you Bush-bashers give us credit for!

Maybe, but you don't have your facts straight here. The Bush number for his Amnesty is 200,000... the Administration was the source. I've used this number consistently throughout this debate.

"Case by case" is meaningless. Drivers' Licenses are issued "Case by case." So?

See post #203 for INS info on the Illegals that Bush wanted to Amnesty... I give you credit for having the intelligence to read the plain English.




205 posted on 05/13/2002 10:13:46 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: sinkspur
There have been polls long before the internet. The American people have always been against massive immigration.1.2 million per year for the last 12 years is freepin overkill!!!! We need retroactive immigration,a moratorium, subtracting 200,000-300,000 per year, until we reach the traditional amount allowed since the founding of this great nation! What has been going on for the last twelve years is in Freekin sane!!!!!!This is not, and has not been the will of the American people!!
206 posted on 05/13/2002 11:11:00 PM PDT by blaze
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To: Mo1
He makes a comment like that and he can't understand why the Bush Administration is upset???

To the Washington Times, no less. I can't help but think on how the Democrats keep their squabbles amongst themselves, presenting a united front. Would that the Republicans could do a little more of the same. I do agree that we should be guarding our borders more stringently, but a little more tactful persuasion within the ranks might be more useful.

207 posted on 05/13/2002 11:33:37 PM PDT by skr
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To: Timesink
Tancredo is no jerk. He is probably frightened because of what he knows. The briefings he is privy to, information we'll not know for years, is very worrisome, no doubt.

There was a tractor-trailer rig hijacked just north of Mexico City late Sunday. It was carrying about a hundred barrels of cyanide. Remember that stolen white van back east that was carrying acid? It was never located. Well, mix cyanide with acid and you get a bioweapon. We should be Bush critics as well.

TEXAS ON LOOKOUT FOR CHEMICAL TRUCK

Rep. Tancredo is right and Dubya, pandering to Hispanic voters, is wrong.

WAR IS NOT THE TIME TO BE PLAYING POLITICS.

208 posted on 05/13/2002 11:38:37 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: ohioWfan
"...The anti-immigration nuts...around here."

So Americans and those of us at FR who demand the enforcement of our borders, and restricted immigration are "nuts"??

They say it usually is that way in the asylum -- the delusion and paranoia that everyone else around them is "nuts"...

Please check back into your cell. Visiting hours are over.

209 posted on 05/13/2002 11:41:52 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: blaze
"This [massive immigration] is not, and has not been the will of the American people!!"

We can only conclude that Dubya purposely chooses to ignore and supercede the "will of the people" on this major issue -- PURELY ON POLITICAL GROUNDS...

Enforcing and protecting American sovereignty and enforcing the Constitution is NOT a priority for the President, but the "feelings" and "rights" of illegal aliens is.

After Bubba Boy thumbed his nose at the law as a rule, it's been disappointing to watch Dubya selectively enforce U.S. law -- that is a fact that no one can refute.

210 posted on 05/13/2002 11:56:14 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: KantianBurke
Tancredo has more class in his little finger then Bush or his team.
211 posted on 05/14/2002 12:10:24 AM PDT by Be active
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To: DoughtyOne
When the day comes where US citizens are more concerned with loyalty to their man instead of to their nation, it won't be day at all. The long cold night will have already begun.

I'm cold and it's dark outside.

212 posted on 05/14/2002 12:27:05 AM PDT by dougherty
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To: dougherty
Told you. lol
213 posted on 05/14/2002 12:38:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: dsutah
these same people were hanging all over him, drooling.

Yes, that's how Bush-bots behave over Dubya.

214 posted on 05/14/2002 12:54:11 AM PDT by dougherty
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To: Be active
As I stated.. I agree with his position.. not necessarily his methods of communicating it.. if everyone who agreed with him did so publicly and loudly he would not have to use such "harsh" language to get this matter the attention that it deserves..

David C. Osborne

215 posted on 05/14/2002 1:29:14 AM PDT by davidosborne
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To: ohioWfan
ohio don't wear yourself out most of the people who bash bush never voted for him their either closet dems who want to disrupt things, neo neo conservatives(bill bennet), or as you've seen NWO conspiracists, they never voted for the man despite what they say. It is ironic though that his kidding around with ozzy osborne probably won him more votes then hes lost on this board. Just remember he doesn't have the senate and does anyone think ulta conservative Bill Simon would beat greyout davis without making larger indents in the latino vote? The man knows what has to be done and hes realizes hes already at a disadvantage having controversially lost the popular vote which had more to do with vote fraud then anything but it still would have been close and with blacks voting at 90-10 clip for dems he had to reach out to groups he could pick votes off like labor and hispanics the sad fact is and george realizes this there just isn't enough conservatives to win elections to offset the black vote, but there is enough to cost people elections despite him being an extremely conservative man he needs the senate to get anything passed.
216 posted on 05/14/2002 1:43:28 AM PDT by Leclair10
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To: Mo1
I suppose you don't have too many illegals up in Pennsylvania, do you? Obviously not.
217 posted on 05/14/2002 1:45:15 AM PDT by dougherty
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To: Leclair10
I have helped vote Bush into office three times: twice as governor and once as President. I am really disillusioned with some of the things he has done lately. He cares more about pandering for votes than our nation's laws and the huge burden illegal immigrants place upon the US taxpayer. I never thought I would say it before this year, but I will not vote for him ever again. I knew he wasn't tough on illegals while he was governor, but it was the feds responsibility to protect our borders. I thought he would toughen up after being elected President. Well, he's in the driver's seat now, and despite his tough talk after Sept. 11, he's no different regarding the illegals than the liberals.
218 posted on 05/14/2002 2:10:57 AM PDT by dougherty
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