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U.S. Intercepting Messages Hinting at a New Attack
The New York Times ^ | 5/18/02 (for editions of 5/19/02) | James Risen and David Johnston

Posted on 05/18/2002 10:31:35 AM PDT by GeneD

WASHINGTON, May 18 — American intelligence agencies have intercepted a vague yet troubling series of communications among Al Qaeda operatives over the last few months indicating that the terrorist organization is trying to carry out an operation as big as or bigger than the Sept. 11 attacks, according to intelligence and law enforcement officials.

But just as last summer's threats left counterterrorism analysts guessing about Al Qaeda's intentions, and believing that the attack might be carried out overseas, the new interceptions are so general that they have left President Bush and his counterterrorism team in the dark about the time, place or method of what some officials refer to as a second-wave attack. As a result, the government is essentially limited to taking broad defensive measures.

"It's again not specific — not specific as to time, not specific as to place," one senior administration official said.

The officials compared the intercepted messages, which they described as cryptic and ambiguous, to the pattern of those picked up last spring and early summer, when Qaeda operatives were also overheard talking about a big operation. Those signals were among the evidence that intelligence agencies presented to President Bush in August about the possibility of an imminent attack against the United States.

The senior official said Friday that the amount of intelligence relating to another possible attack, in Europe, the Arabian Peninsula or the United States, had increased in the last month. Some of it comes from interviews with fighters captured in Afghanistan.

But despite the disruption of Al Qaeda's operations around the world since Sept. 11, and despite major spending increases and shifts of resources to counterterrorism operations, American officials say they have not been able to fully piece together the clues about Al Qaeda's plans.

"There's just a lot of chatter in the system again," the official said. "We are actively pursuing it and trying to see what's going on here."

The government's frustration underscores the problem in fighting an unconventional foe like Al Qaeda.

Interviews with law enforcement and intelligence officials suggest that in the eight months since Sept. 11 the government has made only limited progress in its ability to predict Al Qaeda's next move, and that many proposed improvements in counterterrorism operations have yet to be put into effect.

This is despite considerable advantages that the United States lacked a year ago. The war in Afghanistan has provided a wealth of new information about Al Qaeda's structure and organization, for example.

In addition, the United States is also interrogating captured Qaeda fighters about the organization's plans. Officials say that debriefings of detainees have in some instances provided general warnings of another major attack that dovetail with the threats picked up in the intercepted communication traffic.

Facing intense criticism in recent days over disclosures that a series of possible clues about Al Qaeda's plans fell through the cracks in the months leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks, officials say that some significant changes have been made in the way threat information is studied and circulated within the upper reaches of the Bush administration.

For the first time, the C.I.A. and F.B.I. now compare notes on all terrorist threat information that comes in each day, filtering the intelligence through what they call an analytical "matrix" to determine which threats are the most credible and deserve the most attention. Their daily threat report is distributed to senior policy makers, including the White House director of homeland security, Tom Ridge. It provides a structure for debates among senior officials about whether to issue public threat warnings.

President Bush also now receives daily briefings from both the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. George Tenet, the director of central intelligence, and Robert S. Mueller III, the F.B.I. director, are frequently present during those White House sessions. That way, each agency is able to hear the other's latest advice to the president. Before Sept. 11, he received a daily briefing only from the C.I.A.

Although officials say some potential attacks have been foiled, that has been largely credited to the arrest of terrorist operatives overseas by foreign governments rather than to intelligence gleaned from intercepted communications.

United States intelligence officials said that they began to intercept communications among Qaeda operatives discussing a second major attack in October, and that they have detected recurring talk among them about another attack ever since. Some of the intercepted communications have included frightening references to attacks that the Qaeda operatives say would cause vast numbers of American casualties.

The intercepted communications don't point to any detailed plans for an attack, and even the messages mentioning mass casualties don't refer specifically to the use of weapons of mass destruction like chemical, biological or nuclear devices.

Still, American officials say they believe the intercepts represent some of the most credible intelligence they have received since Sept. 11 about Al Qaeda's intentions. They have provided a troubling undercurrent for the Bush administration as it tries to sort through the hundreds of other terrorist threat warnings it has received over the past few months.

The pattern of intercepted communications that began last October has helped prompt at least five public threat alerts issued by the F.B.I. since last fall.

By contrast, federal law enforcement and intelligence officials say they have been skeptical of many of the far more specific threats they have received from individual informants over the past few months. One of the problems now facing American counterterrorism experts is that they say communications intercepts, while vaguely worded, are often highly credible threat warnings, while the very detailed and specific threats passed on by individual informants are often far less reliable.

Individual informants who approach American investigators in the United States or overseas often know what kind of story will get the biggest reaction. They also often come forward because of hidden motives, perhaps hoping for money or entrance into the United States. The C.I.A. routinely gives its informants polygraph tests in an effort to validate their stories.

But officials say that in some cases they have been forced to take tales told by informants more seriously than they otherwise might, at least in part because officials suspect from the intercepted communications that Al Qaeda is planning something big.

In recent months, officials have issued threat alerts regarding nuclear plants, financial institutions and even specific structures like the Seattle Space Needle and the Golden Gate Bridge, even as some counterterrorism experts privately regarded those threats as not based on solid intelligence.

Some officials say the government's new color-coded threat alert system is less useful than the system it replaced, because it is subject to political influences from appointees who are fearful of being criticized if they fail to pass on every possible threat, no matter how remote.

Yet even as the less credible threats have been widely publicized, the more worrisome and credible undercurrent of intercepted communications has not been made public.

In hindsight, analysts now view the pattern of intercepted communications they saw last May, June and July as a sign of the impending attacks. Those intercepts, coming after embassy bombings in Africa and the suicidal bombing of a Navy ship in an Arabian port, were sometimes alarming.

Their references to mass attacks against American interests prompted a series of public alerts against possible terrorist attacks last summer, including one concerning a possible strike over the Fourth of July holiday. Officials said that they never had any evidence that an attack would occur inside the United States, and instead focused most of their attention on possible strikes against American facilities in the Middle East, Europe or Asia.

After the summer holiday passed quietly without any attacks, American analysts were relieved, but still believed that an attack might be coming. However, they lacked any further details of where or when the strike might come, and some officials began to think that the immediate danger might have passed. Now that analysts are seeing a similar pattern of communications intercepts, they say they are determined to avoid a repeat of that mistake.


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KEYWORDS: airseclist; communications; jihadinamerica; terrorwar; warnings
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To: codebreaker
Memorial Day Indy 500, Baseball Games, NBA Finals etc.

The threat CAN be mitigated, once we build the necessary resolve.

Witness: WWII.

Unfortunately, we are probably due for more suffering before we get to where we need to be...

Locked and loaded.

141 posted on 05/18/2002 3:39:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: GeneD
Maybe they'll hit the UN.
142 posted on 05/18/2002 3:40:53 PM PDT by mondonico
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Because the balloon is going up here, almost immediately, just as it is going up in India this weekend.

Yes.

143 posted on 05/18/2002 3:41:32 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: codebreaker
Or Memorial Day Weekend.

They'd need a big crowd in a small space ... Indy 500 springs to mind.

144 posted on 05/18/2002 3:42:12 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Washington_minuteman
How's that for protection? Feel safe now?

For me, no thanks. I'll protect my family, myself.

The Feds have their job to do, and WE, THE PEOPLE have our job to do.

The Feds are limited to the constraints contained within the Constitution. I am limited only by my stock of ammunition and ingenuity.

145 posted on 05/18/2002 3:46:25 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: chuknospam
"Expect the terrorists to be from "friendly nations" like Saudi Arabia..." You mean like the 15 rag heads that have already stuck this country on 9/11? Saudi was their country of origin. Round em up. Get em out! Send all the moose limbs home.
146 posted on 05/18/2002 3:49:54 PM PDT by reillyoburbank
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"The Feds are limited to the constraints contained within the Constitution. I am limited only by my stock of ammunition and ingenuity."

Well, you know that and I know that. Now, somebody convince the Fedgov of that, and we'll all be a whole lot safer.

148 posted on 05/18/2002 3:53:09 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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To: GirlyGirl
She said "we didn't want there to be only one super power".

Really? She said this?

149 posted on 05/18/2002 3:56:50 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: LibWhacker
Good point. Time for the Bush administration to get serious and send every muslim, citizen or not back to their homeland. I believe that most muslims secretly want their fanatical bretherns to win.

There are no alternatives. Reasoning with them is impossible in light of the fact that they have been indoctrinated to believe that their life will be so much better in the afterlife.

150 posted on 05/18/2002 4:00:29 PM PDT by jackliberty
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To: goodnesswins
Profile non-citizen Middle Easterns. Here's a little know fact: that's not illegal, if by profiling you mean giving them extra scrutiny. The police are permitted to scrutinize whoever the H*(*( they want to.
151 posted on 05/18/2002 4:03:25 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: GeneD
Did somebody remember to CC: HRC?

Increased chatter in the system.

152 posted on 05/18/2002 4:03:45 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: LouD
He is, at the very least, a weasel, a pig, a chicken, and an ass...

Why are you insulting weasels, pigs, chickens, and asses?

He (and his "spouse") is (are) a boil, a cancer, a rotting cesspool of immorality.

PS: Weasels are really intelligent and patriotic.

153 posted on 05/18/2002 4:05:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: right_to_defend
I agree, it's a case of "Something big's gonna happen at some place, sometime - don't say we didn't warn you."

Yes.

154 posted on 05/18/2002 4:06:28 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: GeneD
Internal security never got seriously addressed and now what little was done is being undone.

Reagan National Airport is almost within a stone's throw of the Pentagon, White House, and Capitol. (Looking at a July 4 scenario, a plane crashing into the July 4 crowd around the Washington Monument would make a big mess; so would an attack on Washington's Metro.) After 9/11, there was talk of closing it altogether, not hard to see why. But now, commercial flights are back up to old levels and they're talking about letting general aviation back into it.

It's like 9/11 never happened.

From http://www.nbaa.org/airports/DCA/ Airports In Focus:

Reagan National Airport (DCA) - Washington, DC

Updated May 14, 2002

NBAA Hopeful That General Aviation Will Soon Fly Into DCA

On May 8, 2002, NBAA, along with other aviation associations representing the general aviation community as well as the leadership of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority and Signature Flight Support, met with Department of Transportation and Transportation Security Administration officials to discuss a six-point plan to be completed by the end of May for returning qualified general aviation operations back into Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

155 posted on 05/18/2002 4:07:51 PM PDT by pttttt
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To: Washington_minuteman
Well, you know that and I know that. Now, somebody convince the Fedgov of that, and we'll all be a whole lot safer.

Ive watched your posts and you dont get it. Since Clintoon the government has become our lasting friend. Its now incapable of lying to us or trampling our rights. You need to get a clue-- and jump on the war wagon like you are told by the media. The media was bad under Hillary and Clintoon, but now its not. Got it?

157 posted on 05/18/2002 4:13:00 PM PDT by allrightythen
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To: cajungirl
He was the guest of a Czech Communist apparatchik, and to this day, has never answered questions as to what he was doing there. BTW, he went there before there was any western tourism. After all, Czecheslovakia was invaded by USSR troops in 1968. Prague was no longer such an open city. Judge who he is by the egregious and treasonable actions he engaged in while his regime was in the White House....And yes, his wife("Queen of the Damned") is probably worse than he is.
158 posted on 05/18/2002 4:15:08 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I say, give 'em the Holy War they seek!

Right! Because that's exactly what this is, and there can be only one victor.

I agree completely. And I am not suggesting this just to volunteer someone else's child. I, too, am, ready.

These fanatics (the radical muslims) have been "built up" in the liberal media time and again. Yet every time that they are engaged on the battlefield, they collapse like a deflating colostomy bag.

We need to stop cowering and administer a good, old fashioned, USA ass kicking on this bunch of whack jobs.

Oh, and I realize the "unconventional" aspect of it (e.g. "asymetric warfare") But it will be equally unconventional when these f*ckers engage 200M+ armed Americans on US soil.

Let the very capable US Military handle the overseas job, and let the citizenry of the USA take care of the home front. These muslim pukes will be soiling their rags soon enough.

159 posted on 05/18/2002 4:22:13 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Washington_minuteman
Liked your response. It's sickening, but as we've seen, a lot of people, given a choice of freedom or safety will choose your nightmarish scenario.
160 posted on 05/18/2002 4:23:37 PM PDT by jackliberty
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