Posted on 05/20/2002 3:06:17 AM PDT by kattracks
Kudos to the priest for not letting them get away with politicizing communion. Kudos to the other parishioners for having enough restraint not to beat the crap out of them during the service either.
Oh really?! This is what the Bible says about taking communion:
I Corinthians 11:25-29 "In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.'' For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes. Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly.
This is extremely clear, if you take communion when living in gross immorality (homosexual lifestyle), you come under judgment.
Why? To make them "feel good" about their immoral lifestyle choice? They are under the curse of God. Maybe if this Archbishop really cared about them he would make sure they understood that.
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The first item bolded is clear that "unworthy manner" applies to these guys' attempt to politicize communion. The second is a bit vague, and could apply to any "sinner."
Still, what were these people thinking? Is it okay to politicize any solemn occasion for your pet cause these days? (an other-side example is Fred Phelps picketing homosexual funerals)
homosexuality has to be kept out of the church...
about time...
too bad the Bishops didn't do this years ago - for if they had - all this homosexual stuff in the catholic church would not be happening...
Then you are equally as guilty when you knowingly give the Body of Christ to those who receive Communion in the state of mortal sin.
Then you are equally as guilty when you knowingly give the Body of Christ...
The operative word is "knowingly".
In a survey by a priest of 50 Homosexual Priests, Sipe states "that only 4 were celebate, 10% had more than 10 sexual Partners and 22% had 500 Sexual Partners or more".
Are We to presume that it is OK for these Homosexual priests to be on the Alter celebrating Mass with all that is implied.
Our whole idea of right and wrong is upside down.
No one Knows who of these people are celebate and who are not, unless major changes are made, the Church is in for a long Dark period.
How can any Homosexuals be allowed to be Priests much less 50% of the total.
100% of the Catholics I surveyed (myself) think that number is bovine excrement
As to anyone with an agenda (pro-abortion, hit-man,etc.) and wearing a 'sign' of their intention to continue in sin.
Those are estimates, not facts. If Cozzens is basing his estimate on his experience while running St. Mary's Seminary and he did nothing to expel homosexual seminarians, thus violating the 1961 Vatican decree against ordaining homosexuals, then he is part of the problem and should be defrocked himself.
How can any Homosexuals be allowed to be Priests much less 50% of the total.
The Vatican formally stated in 1961 that homosexuals are not to be ordained. Those bishops who have thumbed their nose at the Vatican should be defrocked. Why do you keep capitalizing the word homosexual?
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Exactly correct and to receive absolution they must have perfect contrition and promise not to engage in any homosexual activity.
The communion issue shouldn't be complicated. If you are a chaste homosexual, or one who has sought forgiveness and truly repented from past homosexual activity, then you should be given communion. If you are promoting or condoning sin (i.e., homosexual activity), then you shouldn't. These people in Australia are fighting for acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle (rampant homosexual activity). As such, communion should be denied. - But then, the same should hold true for priests. An active unrepentant homosexual priest should not be allowed to carry out his priestly duties, and should not be given communion. The Church needs to 1) root out homosexually active priests (maybe 20-30% of the priesthood?), 2) make it clear to those lay people who are homosexually active or who are supporting those who are that they are sinning, 3) over time, reduce the number of homosexual (chaste) priests to the percentage in the population as a whole (2,3%), or lower, 4) never allow priests to be alone with children, 5) have zero tolerance for child abuse.
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