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Nearly 10 Percent of Foreigners Illegally Reaping Social Security Cards
FoxNews.com ^ | May 20, 2002 | Unknown

Posted on 05/20/2002 9:01:54 AM PDT by gubamyster

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:33:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fraud; illegalimmigration; socialsecurity

1 posted on 05/20/2002 9:01:54 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster
>Some of the Sept. 11 hijackers were using illegal Social Security numbers to get credit cards and open bank accounts.

Can I go to a bank, make up a bank account number and have access to the funds in that account? No.

This SSN loophole exists only because there are forces which want this easy loophole to be available to illegals.

2 posted on 05/20/2002 9:16:52 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: gubamyster
>Some of the Sept. 11 hijackers were using illegal Social Security numbers to get credit cards and open bank accounts.

That seals the case right there. Something needs to be done esp since we are facing other attacks just as bad as 9-11. And what's the govt's response to this emergency?

>SSA wants to fix the problem, but it will take six months or more to coordinate efforts with the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which is going through its own overhaul.

That's 6 more months ON TOP of the 9 months since Sept. It seems like someone doesn't get it. And what are they trying to do? Land a man on the moon? No. They are simply trying to institute basic validty checks that every bank and payroll system already uses.

3 posted on 05/20/2002 9:20:50 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: gubamyster
On the otherhand, these "fake" ss numbers are used to collect ss taxes that will never be paid out to these same illegals.
4 posted on 05/20/2002 9:22:41 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: gubamyster
I'd be willing to bet that it's at least double the reported figure.
5 posted on 05/20/2002 9:25:22 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: gubamyster
>Huse said there are many ways to obtain fake Social Security numbers, 1) including using false documents in applications to the SSA, 2) stealing another person's number, 3) using the number of someone who has died, or 4) simply making up a number.

#1 and #2 are cases of identity theft. But can someone explain how in the heck is #3 and #4 even possible, unless it was done so BY DESIGN?

6 posted on 05/20/2002 9:27:17 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: LetsRok
>On the otherhand, these "fake" ss numbers are used to collect ss taxes that will never be paid out to these same illegals.

They don't pay taxes. They max out their deductions on their W-4s and no taxes are withheld.

7 posted on 05/20/2002 9:30:01 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: gubamyster
This illustrates a basic principle. A distant central Government is inherently incapable of administering any program that of necessity must interact with individual persons at a local level. A centralized bureaucracy is simply not suited to this sort of operation.

It surpasseth my understanding, why we ever let involvement in this or any other Federal program be a determinant for employability at a local level. Certainly an employer confronted with a prospective worker, speaking broken English, ought to demand some documentation that the worker is here legally, and the Federal Government does "police" the borders--in its characteristically "efficient" fashion. But only someone looking for an excuse to hire, would accept a Social Security card as evidence of anything other than the fact that someone applied for one or stole one.

I do have a recommendation. It is this. We repeal all laws that forbid consideration of National Origin in employment, and encourage employers to hire those closest to home for most jobs--the people they know, or who can produce some sort of reference from those they know. But I realize that comes too close to common sense to be accepted in today's world of the politics of the 30 second sound bite.

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8 posted on 05/20/2002 9:30:47 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: gubamyster
Here in North Carolina, most simply make up a number.

According to a regional INS source, INS during sporadic checks of employer-furnished ID documents of new hires tells the employers that the numbers don't match the name of the employee and that he must be fired - but the same INS source concedes that the illegal then just either gets rehired at the same place under a different name (and SSN) or elsewhere in the vicinity.

Get the sticker!

9 posted on 05/20/2002 9:32:19 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: gubamyster
It's long been the policy of the Liberals who run Boston and Massachusetts government to flaunt their providing illegals with fake SSN documentation.
10 posted on 05/20/2002 10:22:15 AM PDT by pabianice
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