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Group-sexual assault in swimmingpool (in the Netherlands)
De Telegraaf ^ | May 21 2002 | Joan van den Dungen

Posted on 05/21/2002 3:40:36 PM PDT by knighthawk

Joan van den Dungen, EINDHOVEN - Two girls from Helmond (Dutch city), aged 14 and 15, have been sexualy assaulted this weekend by players of a soccerteam made up of immigrant youths from Rotterdam in the tropical swimmingparadise 'De Tongelreep' in Eindhoven.

Police and employees of the swimming pool managed to detain six suspects after they feeled up and kept harrassing the girls. According the director of the swimmingpool, Arie Heesterbeek, the boys struck shortly before leaving after their supervisor went to the reception to call them out of the water by the intercom. "They tried to get away, but thanks to clues from the personel and other swimmers the police managed to detain them Their supervisor was very affected because of it, he is in deep shame".

The direction of 'De Tongelreep' took stringent precautions five years ago after especialy boys from immigrant decent regualry sexualy assaulted girls. Most perpetrators have to undergo theraphy and learn how to adapt to Dutch moral standards.

Also all other swimming pools in the Netherlands seem to have these kind of problems. "Some guests have to learn to keep their fingers to themselves, not to touch the girls. We do not tolerate this behavior", says Heesterbeek.

Since the prevention-project 'Kennen and be known' in 1997 -the swimming pool was known then as the 'Tongel-rape'- in Eindhoven, the number of sexual assaults decreased with 60% to some seven incidents a year. "Our approach works", says Heesterbeek. "There also is almost no repeat by people who were caught. But every sexual assault is one too many. Our complete staff is specialy shooled to deal with immigrant kids. Furthermore there are seventeen security camrea's. The chance they get caught is 100%! The swimming pool made a deal with the police in Eindhoven and other cities, but also with bureau HALT, that helps youth who go astray."


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KEYWORDS: eindhoven; helmond; immigrants; sexualassault; thenetherlands
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Helmond is about 20 miles from where I live.

This is the so called 'multicultural society'. And this is how these people 'contribute' to it. EVERY group rape/sexual assault is carried out by immigrants, mostly of Moroccan origin, according to the Rotterdam police.

Our complete staff is specialy schooled to deal with immigrant kids

Instead of them adapting to us, we seem to be forced to adapt to them!

Note that they come from Rotterdam, the city where 42% of the people feel unsafe and Pim Fortuyn swept the local elections.

All the time people crack down on the 'far right', but the crimes of the people their 'cuddly-toys' they never see. Or they just ignore them.

Note: not only this swimming pool was terrorized by this sort of people, but also those in places like Veenendaal and Amsterdam. Also discos and cafe's complain these people (again mostly Moroccans) intimidate girls.

To these people non-islamic girls are just prey.

More on how these people 'enrich' the Dutch society:

Group-rape of girl cover up attempt uncovered in Holland
Group-rape of girl cover up in Holland - an update
Daughter killed for not being a virgin anymore (Holland)
Man from Eindhoven (Holland) Arrested in Masud Muder Case
Muslims and neo-nazi's protest together against Israel (in Holland)
Suspects in Rotterdam had videotapes Bin Laden (Holland)
Money radical muslims suspected to be in the Netherlands
'Moderate' Islam in the Netherlands: The Trukish organization Milli Görüs

1 posted on 05/21/2002 3:40:37 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: dennisw; OKCSubmariner; watchin; VOA; harpseal; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2...
Religion of tolerance alert-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 05/21/2002 3:41:59 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
I have read that gangs of Muslim middle eastern immigrants are terrorizing women in France, committing gang rapes and the like, also. What will it take for the governments of the Netherlands, France and other western European nations to wake up to the immigration problem?
3 posted on 05/21/2002 3:49:08 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: knighthawk
Instead of them adapting to us, we seem to be forced to adapt to them!
White liberal guilt has gone a long way in getting us to this situation and most of us give in because we feel we're being fair. When it goes too far it is societal suicide.
4 posted on 05/21/2002 3:49:22 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: knighthawk
. . . and learn how to adapt to Dutch moral standards.

Funniest line in the whole article.

5 posted on 05/21/2002 3:52:33 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: knighthawk
So what changes now that the List has greater political powers? Any chance youth like this will be deported back to their North African paradise?
6 posted on 05/21/2002 3:53:08 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: knighthawk
Celebrate diversity!
7 posted on 05/21/2002 3:53:43 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: knighthawk
And why is it the immigrant young males are even allowed in these places in the first place?
8 posted on 05/21/2002 3:54:32 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: mountaineer
Australia too. Do a search on it and be shocked!
9 posted on 05/21/2002 3:55:35 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Charles Henrickson
Sorry about it. But Belgium now has got more liberal euthanesia laws, so I guess it can be worse.
10 posted on 05/21/2002 3:56:34 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Charles Henrickson
I don't see why that's funny. The Dutch may be sexually promiscous (sp?) but they certainly draw the line at non-consensual activity. Muslims, OTOH, don't. Not when it comes to kuffar women, i.e.
11 posted on 05/21/2002 3:56:49 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: knighthawk
...learn how to adapt to Dutch moral standards.

Didn't know they had any.

12 posted on 05/21/2002 3:56:51 PM PDT by Uncle Sausage
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To: FreedomPoster
These perps will get off almost scot-free. They will get into a 'rehabilitation' program, made by some old hippies and. The first two links on the end go to a story of another group-rape. One of the perps (who were in such a program) got himself into the news by raping a young boy!
13 posted on 05/21/2002 3:59:12 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Most perpetrators have to undergo theraphy and learn how to adapt to Dutch moral standards.

Bwa-ha! Dutch moral standards and therapy! I'm sure that's a great deterent.

14 posted on 05/21/2002 4:00:19 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: knighthawk
Perhaps these little perverts should be subjected to Saudi justice -- cut off their hands.
15 posted on 05/21/2002 4:00:22 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: knighthawk
Point 1: It must be America's fault. If the girls had not tried to dress like Britney this would not have happened.

Point 2: There needs to be a 7 day waiting period for anyone wanting to use da pool!

16 posted on 05/21/2002 4:00:28 PM PDT by TRY ONE
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To: Charles Henrickson
. . . and learn how to adapt to Dutch moral standards.

Funniest line in the whole article.

Meaning what? That Dutch men are also rapists?

17 posted on 05/21/2002 4:02:25 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: mountaineer
Those govts. know full well what's going on. This is redistribution of wealth, via importation of 3rd worlders. Globalization. un backed. No one wants to be the next slobodan.
18 posted on 05/21/2002 4:02:29 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: crystalk
That's a very complicated story. I was telling about the discos no longer allowing them in. This was years ago, and some people complained. There was an investigator asking a cafe-owner why he didn't allow them in his cafe. The owner told this guy on tv he was tired of them touching every girl in his place. It was either them or the girls. The investigator directly shut up and hope by doing so the owner would not reveal more about those kind of immigrants.

The left (mainly Greenleft and the PvdA) directly verbaly attacked every man questioning this behavior in the past. Also they maintain links to 'anti-racism organizations' and pro-immigrant organization which the left used to silence opposers.

Pim Fortuyn was the first one to overcome them. He paid this with his life.

In the Netherlands we have got a new saying: THE BULLET CAME FROM THE LEFT.

19 posted on 05/21/2002 4:04:41 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Saw your "opus" a short while back. Glad that you decised to stay.

The problem that we all face is that muslims, in general, see women as objects. Period. They have no respect for them, and thus, see no problem with "taking liberties" with them- with or without consent. Many arab muslims see westerners in the same perspective. We are infidels, and must be either converted to Islam or destroyed. We (western civilization) can't comprehend such thoughts. This is evident in the US where the watch words are "diversity" and "tolerance" and the like. We can't say that a religion/society that teaches that women are property and that Christians and Jews must be killed is wrong...no, we must tolerate their views and accept that their culture is as legitimate and worthy as ours...for the sake of diversity. Horse-hockey. Not all cultures are created equal. Some are good, some are evil. And until we recognize these poeple for what they are, we will all continue to suffer.

20 posted on 05/21/2002 4:04:53 PM PDT by RayBob
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To: My2Cents
And other body parts as well. To keep them from getting children, that is.
21 posted on 05/21/2002 4:05:51 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: RayBob
People talked me into staying. So you can blame them for my posts from now on, LOL!

In islam, we would have no real rights:

Being a non-Muslim under Islamic rule

22 posted on 05/21/2002 4:09:40 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Nice to still "see" you here. And thank you for the post. It's the tip of an iceberg-sized epidemic.

23 posted on 05/21/2002 4:11:21 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: Travis McGee
FYI

24 posted on 05/21/2002 4:11:43 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: knighthawk
Thanks for keeping us informed.
25 posted on 05/21/2002 4:12:39 PM PDT by The Energizer
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To: knighthawk
The saddest thing about this, is that while precautions can be taken to catch the perpetrators and minimize their chance to get away with very much; nothing will restore to your young adolescent girls, growing into women, the sense that young women used to have in the West, that it was a happy and spiritually meaningful fun time. This sort of thing takes much of the happy spirit out of being young and looking forward to being courted and made over by those of the opposite sex who know how to behave well, and make girls feel appreciated and adored.

Without having had that sense--so basic to the normal instinctive development--there may be a souring of the attitude towards life; towards romance and family, and the progression of the generations. On the other hand, there may be a cynical progression towards promiscuity. What there will not be--not from any rational point of view--is any discernible benefit from multi-cultural diversity.

Don't you wish that we could reserve all the "Joys" of multi-cultural diversity for the "Liberals," who have inflicted it on others?!

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
[Your venue, where we promise you, you will find no concessions whatsoever to the lunacy that is Modern "Liberalism."]

26 posted on 05/21/2002 4:12:44 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: TRY ONE
>> It must be America's fault

Now that's funny !!!

27 posted on 05/21/2002 4:15:06 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: Ohioan
The joy in the Netherlands is being paid back now. Many organizations fear the new center-right government (if one gets there) will take away their funding. And both the parties who won big (CDA and LPF) are both opposed to multiculturism and want to punish the perps more. The total tolerance is a thing of the past now.
28 posted on 05/21/2002 4:19:13 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
immigrant youths

Muslims right? Islam means peace..perhaps if put your girls in Burkas they would all be safe

29 posted on 05/21/2002 4:22:03 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: knighthawk
Too bad some armed dads can't accompany a few of these young girls to the pool and mete out some on the spot behavior modification.
30 posted on 05/21/2002 4:24:34 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: RnMomof7
Yep, Moroccans -> muslims.

Just imagine it: girls swimming in a tent.

31 posted on 05/21/2002 4:27:16 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
The joy in the Netherlands is being paid back now. Many organizations fear the new center-right government (if one gets there) will take away their funding. And both the parties who won big (CDA and LPF) are both opposed to multiculturism and want to punish the perps more. The total tolerance is a thing of the past now.

You've made my evening. Thanks!

32 posted on 05/21/2002 4:27:49 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Bahbah
That is the problem in the Netherlands. If it was Texas or something like it, they would not behave that way.

Why did Dutch people get soft?

33 posted on 05/21/2002 4:28:34 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Ohioan
Let us hope they can form a coalition and get things going the right way again. That would make my day (and the next years as well).
34 posted on 05/21/2002 4:33:50 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk; phillip augustus; a history buff
Interesting paragraph from the article "How Le Pen Won -- And How Le Pen Lost," by Farley Clinton, in the current (May 16, 2002) The Wanderer:

Le Pen's attack on the European Union was an attack on the new financial and economic organization of Europe. It is ordinary French citizens (especially in the east and the south of France) who do not want an Islamic France -- or Europe. Therefore they fear Islamic immigration. And it is often industrialists and other financial leaders who don't see the problem. They are all committed financially to the shaky and rather silly new European Union which wants a non-European invasion of Europe, to help business and keep the economies functioning on paper at their present level.

35 posted on 05/21/2002 4:37:59 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: knighthawk
Understood, and concurred with.

As an aside, I think it's interesting how a religion of such enforced morality can lead to such uncontrolled immorality.

36 posted on 05/21/2002 4:43:20 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: RayBob
Not all cultures are created equal.

Thank you! I've said many times since 9/11: I'm not racist - But I'm darn sure culturalist. The American Way is superior!

37 posted on 05/21/2002 4:45:20 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: knighthawk
Plenty of "softness" here as well. Sometimes I think it is partly a mistaken view of what it is to be kind and also the mistaken notion that we can be protected from all bad events and people. How often do you hear the old canard "root causes" trotted out? There are evil people and evil forms of government. Sometimes you have to be ready to smack them a good one. This comes from a very peaceful person with, I hope, a dose of common sense.
38 posted on 05/21/2002 4:46:54 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: knighthawk
Good to see you back.
39 posted on 05/21/2002 4:47:00 PM PDT by weikel
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To: My2Cents
It's not only the religion. Their culture as well. Turkish youth don't do it like the Moroccans.

Moroccan parents only feel responsible for their kids for what the do inside the house. Outside their home the kids are allowed to do anything. This problem is also noted by the police.

40 posted on 05/21/2002 4:49:24 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: weikel
Thanks, and also thanks for the support.
41 posted on 05/21/2002 4:50:14 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk; RayBob
While I struggle to teach my children to respect others, these clods deserve no respect. The fact that they are foreigners is secondary.

I have no problem with legal immigrants. I have a huge problem with hooligans, and think that a crime such as this is enough to deny them potential citizenship and all benefits.

Well, maybe one benefit. A one way bus ticket home.

43 posted on 05/21/2002 4:53:08 PM PDT by texas booster
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To: knighthawk
Wow. This brings back memories for me. When my father was stationed in Germany, we would sometimes go to the local German pool (as opposed to a DOD facility). One summer, when I was about 10, a (probably Turkish as the most common immigrant at the time)teenage boy grabbed the top of my swimsuit and tried to pull it down to do who knows what. I screamed help in German as loud as I could a couple of times and he backed away. I hadn't really forgotten it, but I also hadn't put it into perspective with current problems they are having there. Luckily, he didn't get away with much, but I was not comfortable there after that.
44 posted on 05/21/2002 4:58:33 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: knighthawk
I'm so glad you're back knighthawk. Any chance they'll be able to get this under control with the new legislature?
45 posted on 05/21/2002 5:01:50 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: texas booster
And that is the problem here.

Most decent immigrants are refused to take refugee here. People from Iran and Iraq with high educations are send back. There was a documentary of a familiy living for 6 years now in the Netherlands. Their children spoke almost perfect Dutch (unlike most other immigrants who skip the courses). But they would be sent back in a short while.

But a lot of people from Somalia throw away their passports after stepping out of the plane and lie to the INS (Immigration service). Even when they are caught lying or are proven criminals, they get to stay here!

Recently the government started an investigation to see how it is possible thousands (!) of Somalian kids are 'smuggled' by plane into the Netherlands to recieve child-support, that is cashed by the criminals who arrange them to come over.

For years this has been going on and while everybody knew about it, nobidy stopped it. Now people are waking up and believe me, the voters didn't vote for right parties en-masse because of the way CDA-leader Balkenede looks like Harry Potter!

46 posted on 05/21/2002 5:03:09 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: RayBob
The problem that we all face is that muslims, in general, see women as objects. Period.

Give the man a prize! That is a big part of the problem. And while the Western attitude toward women has not always been very nice it has never been as bad as the Muslim view.

When you have a culture where one sex is worshipped and one is revile there are going to be some big time kinks in their cutural physic.

a.cricket

47 posted on 05/21/2002 5:05:17 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: conservative cat
Sorry to hear that. It's beyond me why they do things like that. I can imagine that you feel this way.
48 posted on 05/21/2002 5:05:38 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: McGavin999
I hope that they will start to do something now. People are fed up and the left is trying to save as much as they can. It is impossible for them now to protect the criminals like they have for decades. Also the leftist-organizations are recieving a lot of hate-mail and threats. They are recieving the same thing they unleashed on others for speaking up now.
49 posted on 05/21/2002 5:08:04 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: My2Cents
these little perverts should be subjected to Saudi justice -- cut off their hands.

Being that they are rapists, something other than the hands should be cut off.

50 posted on 05/21/2002 5:09:44 PM PDT by Alouette
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