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What Gun Control Proponents Have to Believe
CalNRA website ^ | 5/21/2002 | Jim Cammarano

Posted on 05/22/2002 7:51:46 AM PDT by Joe Brower

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Well written and well researched. Jim Cammarano is a hard-charging 100% pro-gun activist, deep behind enemy lines in San Diego, CA. I've had the honor and privilige of working with him in the past. A better man is hard to find.


1 posted on 05/22/2002 7:51:46 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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2 posted on 05/22/2002 7:52:10 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Joe Brower
My favorite subject, but I'm at work right now. Printing out to read at home tonight. I will say this though: National Guards and State Militias are part of what the 2nd ammendment is there to guard AGAINST!!
3 posted on 05/22/2002 8:11:59 AM PDT by crude77
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To: Joe Brower
This Is A BRILLIANT POST!!!I Think That I Will Print It ENTIRELY!!!!Since"Brady 2",I Have Had (When I Purchase A Firearm)To Wait For Up To Three Days.In Fact,I Just Endured A Three-Day Wait And Wasn't Even Approved!!!!!I'd Like To Know When Our Representatives And Senators Are Going To Live Up To The Oath"I Promise To Preserve,Protect,and Defend The Constitution Of The United States of America Against ALL ENEMIES Both Foreign AND DOMESTIC"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4 posted on 05/22/2002 8:13:32 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Joe Brower
I love that "keep and bare books," line. Great analogy.
5 posted on 05/22/2002 8:16:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Joe Brower
If the anti-gun crowd thinks the 2nd amendment applies only to States militias, who or what do they think was threatening to take away the States Militias's right to own guns?
6 posted on 05/22/2002 8:56:56 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Joe Brower
Excelent post!!!
7 posted on 05/22/2002 9:00:55 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: DManA
You cannot reason or debate with anti-gun extremists. Don't waste your time.

When the Day comes, however, you will be able to deal with them.

8 posted on 05/22/2002 9:03:03 AM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Joe Brower
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9 posted on 05/22/2002 9:05:38 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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The only thing gun control proponents believe is that they will always control the police powers of the State. Their childish dream world is as sickening as it is dangerous.

When terrorists start splattering teens at the mayhem mall, will these same proponents demand personal police escort or arm themselves to provide a chance of delf-defense? I can hardly wait to hear the outroar of gun controllers when they face the 15 day (Kali) waiting period as their schools, malls, condo's, and offices are exploded day after day. Parents need to consider that in terror bombings the injured outnumber the dead by about 6:1. The blinded, mutilated, and Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome innocents will outnumber the dead. We each must face our own responsibilities to protect our families.

In nearly every case, cops are crime historians. In nearly every case, the police powers of the State serve to protect the State.

10 posted on 05/22/2002 9:40:22 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: SevenDaysInMay;Joe Brower;Squantos;harpseal;PatrioticAmerican;Jefferson Adams;Noumenon;Big Ern...
When we finally see muslim terrorists take legally purchased in the USA "assault rifles" into a church or movie theater it will be the ultimate acid test for the FedGov and the 2nd amendment. This could happen today or next month; it will happen.

Will they then move to restrict the rights of all Americans to own such "high powered military style weapons", or will they allow wider open and concealed carry, Israeli style, to stop future attackers in their tracks?

Based on the current debacle with the disarmed airline pilots, I'd have to guess they will go for greater restrictions. They have just proven that the FedGov would rather blow an airliner out of the sky with a missile from a (government owned and operated) F-16 than permit a civilian pilot to have the chance to defend his cockpit and his passengers with a privately owned pistol.

11 posted on 05/22/2002 9:55:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Wardaddy
ping.
12 posted on 05/22/2002 10:02:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Joe Brower
The only thing gun control proponents have to believe is whatever the commie foundations funding them want!

That's why the antigun lobby can never accept any compromise on the gun issue - as it would make their lucrative careers irrelevant to the rich commies like George Soros and Andrew McKelvey and leftist foundations funding them. That's why their struggle must be perpetual. (What was the best thing careerwise that ever happened to Sarah Brady? Her "martyr" status when her husband got shot!)

Like Wayne LaPierre said of the Klintons, that's why the antigun lobby really does depend on a certain level of headline crime - no matter what gun control was in effect at the time.

Scandals of antigun activists - coast to coast!

13 posted on 05/22/2002 10:02:10 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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License and register all handgun sales
Hillary Rodham Clinton offered her support for a legislative proposal to license hand guns. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer, would require anyone who wants to purchase a gun to obtain a state-issued photo gun license. “I stand in support of this common sense legislation to license everyone who wishes to purchase a gun,” Clinton said. “I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry, such as Chuck is proposing.” Source: CNN.com Jun 2, 2000

I guess we know what she believes.

14 posted on 05/22/2002 10:12:43 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: Joe Brower
It was that miserable, lying, miscreant, Pete Shields, the founder of Handgun Prohibition, Inc, who more or less invented the mind-boggling "collective rights" nonsense about the 2nd around 1976. Its clear that even the most die-hard, anti-freedom, commie, control freak doesn't really think that's what the 2nd means. They WANT desparately to win the PR war against firearm ownership and the totally wrong-headed collective rights theory was merely a PR gimmick; it worked well enough to persuade lefty legislators to put into law the most unconstitutional gun prohibition ever - the California AW ban and the lesser federal AW ban. Gun grabbers are chronic sociopathic liars; they have to be because if they ever uttered the truth about arms and the 2nd, they would be instantly out of business.
15 posted on 05/22/2002 10:25:43 AM PDT by 45Auto
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To: Joe Brower
Bump!
16 posted on 05/22/2002 10:38:10 AM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Travis McGee
Based on the current debacle with the disarmed airline pilots, I'd have to guess they will go for greater restrictions.

I fear you are correct.

Thanks for the ping, especially among such a distinguished group of freepers.

FReegards

17 posted on 05/22/2002 11:35:21 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: Joe Brower
Here's what the other side has to say about your right to keep and bear arms:

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." ~~Senator Diane Feinstein, 1993

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate ofthe United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them....'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in', I would have done it." ~~Senator Feinstein, 1995

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA: ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the state." ~~Heinrich Himmler

"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." ~~Henry Waxman

"One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is the arming of the workers [read communist party] and the disarming of the bourgeoisie." ~~V.I. Lenin, Collected Works

"I don't think everybody has a right to a weapon which can be used to kill innocent people and maybe threaten the life of a president of the United States." ~~Henry Waxman

"Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms." ~~V.I. Lenin

"We are going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We are going to beat guns into submission!" ~~Chuck Schumer

"If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves." ~~Stalin, 1927

"I stand in support of this common sense legislation to license everyone who wishes to purchase a gun. I also believe that every new handgun sale or or transfer should be listed in a national registry, such as Chuck [Senator Schumer] is proposing." ~~Hillary Clinton, 2000

18 posted on 05/22/2002 1:38:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." ~~Henry Waxman

I forget who said it (Jefferson? Franklin?) but..."When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Let's keep pignose Waxman peeing in his pants!

19 posted on 05/22/2002 4:53:37 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr
Exactly why all the would be tyrant liberal demonrat polidiots are all trying to ban the "armored limo buster" .50 calibers.
20 posted on 05/22/2002 8:14:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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