INDIA vs PAKISTAN: AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY WENT TO WAR (AND WHO WOULD WIN).

[spetznaz]

The following info was garnered about their respective nuke strike capabilities, and once again India has the upper hand.

The danger is in the attempt to gain an advantage one of the sides may resort to the use of nuclear weapons which both countries tested recently, with Pakistan having between 8-12 nuclear weapons and India having between 70-100 nuclear weapons with both countries having a ballistic missile capability. With India having the Agni and Prithvi ballistic missiles which have a range of 2500km and 150/250km respectively. With Pakistan having the Hataf series and Ghauri missiles with ranges of 60km/600-800km and 1500km respectively. Although the Pakistani missiles are based on Chinese designs or are Chinese in origin which leaves a question mark over their accuracy, while the Prithvi has been reported to have attained an CEP of 10m in some tests through the use of a warhead similar to that of the RA-DAG warhead used by the Pershing II (Asia-Pacific Defence Reporter, April/May 1994, pg. 20). India has also ordered the 300V SAM from Russia which has a ABM capability and is thought to be superior to the Patriot system that protected Israel during the Gulf War. ( Note:- even if Pakistan were to begin with a nuclear first strike they could never destroy India's nuclear capability. With only 7-12 weapons Pakistan would only be able to attack 3-6 Indian targets. While they do have delivery systems they are yet to develop a hard target kill capability, thus enough Indian weapons would survive to allow for a massive retaliatory strike.)

[ZULU]

Their Muslim, Logic doens't enter the Islamic equation. Never has. Despite the efforts of the current regime in Pakistan to provide support for the U.S., it in no way represents the sentiments of the majority of Pakistanis, most of whom are Muslim, anti-west and hate America and our presence there.

My sympathies would be TOTALLY with the Indians and I would hope the U.S. would provide them with whatever assistance they might need in taming this additional potential Islamic Rattlesnake.

After all, India and the Hindus have suffered for centuries from Islamic oppression and are still, like the U.S. and Israel, targets of Islamic terrorists.

[Petronski]

I would believe a Pakistani first strike before an Indian one. I'm not particularly fond of either one, but it seems to me that India is the lesser of two madmen.

[W1RCH]

Let them duke it out

[mvonfr]

Could you please post the link to the original article?

[cgk]

Someone posted a chilling fact here the other day: if Pakistan were to unleash its entire nuclear arsenal on India killing 700 million (a very high figure, the poster conceded), India would still be more populous than the United States -- with only a fraction of the land.

Kind of puts it in perspective.

[cmsgop]

Here is a Pic of India's Carrier.......



The former russian carrier Gorshkov.

[Nogbad]

"...why would pakistan engage india if it knows it has no chance of winning?"

It's called suicide bombing

It is a practice Islamic fundamentalists have tried before
in Pakistan and in other countries.

Nuclear weapons would be even more effective than dynamite.

[Walkin Man]

However my question is this, why would pakistan engage india if it knows it has no chance of winning?

The Paki jihadists are killin' for their "god". Death to the infidels, don't ya know. Its a big part of the peaceful religion of Islam. Even if they lose they think they go the big orgy in the sky with 72 virgins. There is no logical reasoning to be found in the brainpan of any muslim jihad killer.

[Walkin Man]

Thing to lookout for; an Indian victory is almost certain (IMHO) to be followed up with a fundamentalist uprising in Pakistan.

If that happens we had better take out the Paki's nukes ourselves or have radical Islamo-fascists in control of nuclear weapons. Their next target could be the USA.

[thoughtomator]

One thing to be noted about the two nations' nuclear arsenals is that the Pakistani nukes are uranium bombs while the Indians have plutonium bombs... the destructive potential of Indian nukes is far greater.

[Dan Day]

I actually read a post yesterday from someone who said that he saw somewhere some Pakistanis saying that they would be willing to see their country completely destroyed by India if it meant taking a couple of Indian cities with them.

See post #9, it contains a link to the statement you're describing.

[Freebird Forever]

A few years back, I made the acquaintance of a Brit whose profession was writing travel publications. This man had first hand experience with places I never knew to exist, and could talk for weeks on the countries he had visited.

One night over dinner the subject of an India / Pak war came up. This mans main concern was not of a geographical conflict between the countries, but, should a war occur, that it would be undertaken by Indians and Pakistanis in every country where they both reside.

Given his perspective, it left me with pause for concern.

[maquiladora]

No, India's Carrier is ex-British, the old HMS Hermes. They still don't have that Russian carrier.

[Thud]

You have an exaggerated opinion of the physical effects of nuclear weapons. In this conflict they would be best used to spread mass panic and so collapse civilian economies. Their best military use would be counter-force.

[happygrl]

My feelings about Muslims are changing from rage and anger to pity.

Yes, the portrayal of Pakistani worldview in The Atlantic is pitiful.

But the rage returns as the body count caused by Muslim irrationality continues to rise.

[Mitchell]

It is very disturbing. I don't know how widespread the particular feelings described are, but the general level of irrationality and murderous desperation is clearly very high. And the celebration of so-called martyrdom, the elevation of insanity to a virtue, aggravates the whole thing.

I do think people like the general in the article grossly underestimate the pain and suffering that they will bring upon their own people. But, so frequently, only once it happens do people realize what they've gotten themselves into.

[Mitchell]

It's called suicide bombing

Good point.

[xJones]

This mans main concern was not of a geographical conflict between the countries, but, should a war occur, that it would be undertaken by Indians and Pakistanis in every country where they both reside.

That could make life in Britain a battleground, for one example.

[Thud]

You have an unrealistic opinion of nuclear weapons effects. Real life is not like the movies. And there has been a whole lot of lefty nonsense on the subject too. Don't fall for their propaganda.