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Rock Creek Park Predator Interviewed by Police Investigating Levy Death
Drudge ^ | 5/23/02 | Roll Call Daily/ Drudge

Posted on 05/23/2002 10:14:29 AM PDT by john in missouri

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To: LisaFab
If she really went jogging, why wouldn't she have left some unpacked clothes to change into before leaving on her trip?

I am not sure she packed to leave or had just returned from Condits.

221 posted on 05/23/2002 12:46:46 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
If you are working out regularly, you do get an irresistible urge to continue. Taking a jog after getting the packing done sounds reasonable.

As I wrote earlier, an urge so strong that you will go out jogging without leaving a change of clothes and a towel for a shower after? She was going to head out to the airport in her dirty, sweaty clothes, remain in them for the entirety of a cross-country plane trip?

No woman I know would ever consider this scenario.

222 posted on 05/23/2002 12:47:46 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: SGCOS
FWIW, I've been a runner for over 10 years and have NEVER seen a jogger/runner wearing a backpack, except when training for the Pikes Peak Ascent or Marathon.

I too, wondered about the backpack. My thinking is this. Some say that she wasn't much of a jogger. As suggested by someone else, the dogs track her to the corner and then nothing. She grabs a ride, maybe called for a cab earlier (though she would have needed to know how much money it would cost, since the wallet is left at the apartment), or she gets a ride from someone she knows, or someone is sent to pick her up and take her to the park.

Perhaps she was merely planning to walk the area and not jog. The backpack. Why a need for the backpack and what was in it, before and after. THAT is the question. Food for one, or two? Blackmail material? Just tossing ideas.

223 posted on 05/23/2002 12:47:47 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: VRWC_minion
I am not sure she packed to leave or had just returned from Condits.

The cops did not simply find an overnight bag -- there were no clothes hanging in the closet or folded in the bureau. She was packed to go home.

224 posted on 05/23/2002 12:49:27 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Bagehot
Absolutely. This is Waaaayyy too convenient methinks. How come this 'predator' was never mentioned as a suspect previously? Condit would have trumpeted this from the rooftops. I Think it smells.

You did not read the article very carefully or follow this story from last year. This serial killer suspect has been in the news all along, since before Levy's disappearance. He was mentioned as a possible suspect last year after Levy disappeared.

225 posted on 05/23/2002 12:49:41 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: Humbug
Why? 'cause Condit probably talked with or met with Chandra that day and didn't want anyone to find out. The setting, park woods with rugged terrain and lush growth in May - Aug make the failure to discover the body nothing remarkable, except for the fact that the DC police KNEW about these assaults in the park and didn't send cadaver dogs into the ravines around the trail.

You underestimate the effectiveness of the natural cover and overestimate the DC police's search effort.

Eventually a trail-wanderer brings a dog in the area who finds the remains. The only reason he didn't kill the first victim seems to be that he thought someone was coming. The only reason he didn't kill the first one after he got her off the trail with a hand over her mouth, is that she got away.

She felt him relax (he's subdued her with a knife and gotten her to shut up) for a moment, and bolted away. She was in good shape and lucky - he didn't catch her.

Chandra was a tiny girl. He might have hit hard in the head her to make her shut up. If he dragged her down a ravine, too, she might have been injured and less able to resist.

226 posted on 05/23/2002 12:49:53 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: concerned about politics
Sooooo. This guy was around since before Chandra turned up missing, yet not a word about it.

He also made the first attack in mid-May, at about the same time (May 16) the D.C. police searched Rock Creek Park for the first time, according to the time-line link posted above.

So, not only does this guy keep attacking women in the same area where his supposed first victim's body lies, but he does it around the same time the D.C. police start searching the park -- anyone with a TV would know about the investigation, and everyone's attention is focused on that area of the park. The attack cases prominently feature Walkmans, it is noted that he wasn't attacking to steal the Walkmans, and one is conveniently found near Levy's body. This smells.

227 posted on 05/23/2002 12:51:55 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: ruoflaw
That's right. I hunt and fish and often run across dead carcasses.

The aroma is a medley of rotting fish and an open cesspool.

There's no way that stink wouldn't be noticable in a public park.

228 posted on 05/23/2002 12:52:14 PM PDT by johnny7
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To: justanotherfreeper
If this guy Guandeque actually did it, Condit has to be the unluckiest human being on the planet.

Yes, but he did bring some of it on himself by not coming clean with the police about his affair with Levy from the get go.

Also, Condit is not a smooth enough of a liar to get away with it. He looked sleazy, he looked like he was hiding something - not, probably, the murder, but rather his philandering.

229 posted on 05/23/2002 12:52:49 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: Howlin
And why would he kill her, then go back to the very place he supposedly left her body, and attack two more women, which would have drawn attention to that area.

Yes, very strange indeed. But you can bet psychologists will find a way to come up with an explanation...

I'm still wondering: if he didn't do it, did he witness something while he was hiding in the woods stalking his future victims? He had to have been hiding and planning long before he actually decided to attack. Isn't it what predators usually do?

230 posted on 05/23/2002 12:53:36 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
Actually the two assaults in the park occurred AFTER Levy's dissappearance, though very shortly after. One in may, the other july.

I don't know about Chiang, but Mirzayan's murder might be linked to this same guy. Her murder was in 97 or 98, (I've seen it printed both ways.) Her purse was taken but her jewelry left behind. There was evidence she was sexually assaulted, she was killed by blows to the head. Her body was found in a ravine next to the sidewalk path she had taken.

231 posted on 05/23/2002 12:53:49 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: SarahW
I think Chandra went out in the afternoon, met with Condit, then enjoyed her last late afternoon/early evening jog on the branch road trail.

Possible. It's also possible that Condit set up her murder for her departure. He could have met with her to see what course she was planning to take and learning that she still insisted that he leave his wife, knew too much, etc., phoned the perp who was waiting and said to proceed according to plan. Who knows?

232 posted on 05/23/2002 12:54:07 PM PDT by twigs
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg
She was going to head out to the airport in her dirty, sweaty clothes, remain in them for the entirety of a cross-country plane trip?

I wasn't aware she had tickets for that day. But FWIW, I once dated an avid runner who ran several miles per day and she never showered after running. She said it was clean sweat. Further, why are you assuming she would work up a sweat on May 1, merely jogging ?

233 posted on 05/23/2002 12:54:27 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Because it was a place he knew, felt he could "operate" in , and find likely prey.
234 posted on 05/23/2002 12:54:33 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: browardchad
Help............do you remember talk about the Walkman last summer?????
235 posted on 05/23/2002 12:54:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: SarahW
No, this sounds like a very serious suspect. Considering the location and timing of the other attacks, this may be the killer.

But the comparison totally fades away inasmuch as he didn't kill any of the others.

HUGE difference.

236 posted on 05/23/2002 12:55:24 PM PDT by Hotspur
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To: browardchad
For the last time, HE is the only one saying he was out for walkmans, which BTW, he never took.

He was probably very much on the lookout for women wearing walkmans, however, because they are easier to sneak up on.

237 posted on 05/23/2002 12:56:17 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: Carolinamom
Yes, I remember that. Nick Dunne also has repeatedly stated that is what he thinks happened, for what that's worth.
238 posted on 05/23/2002 12:57:07 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg
The cops did not simply find an overnight bag --

It was my understanding she lived with Condit up until the time his wife came to DC. Therefore she would have more than a simple overnight bag.

239 posted on 05/23/2002 12:57:58 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
I live right outside D.C., have worked in D.C. since '94, and this is the first I've heard of Guandeque or these attacks. I just did a google search on "Ingmar Guandeque" and "Rock Creek Park", and all that turned up were two Department of Justice documents. I don't think the press reported Guandeque and his attacks at all before now.

Really weird, considering the obvious possibility of connection with Chandra Levy's disappearance.

240 posted on 05/23/2002 12:58:02 PM PDT by aristeides
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