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ACLU sues Boy Scouts over city-owned site
The Sacramento Bee ^
| 1:40 a.m. PDT Friday, May 24, 2002
| SAN DIEGO (AP)
Posted on 05/24/2002 9:32:55 AM PDT by Frapster
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:36:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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SAN DIEGO (AP) - The Boy Scouts of America should not be allowed to lease 18 city-owned acres because the organization does not allow homosexuals, a lawsuit contends.
The American Civil Liberties Union filed the lawsuit in federal court. It wants a federal judge to stop the lease based on the Boy Scouts guidelines involving homosexuals and those who want to be Scout leaders but are atheists.
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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; boyscouts; bsalist; homosexuality; litigation
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I am slowly gaining a high level of animosity to an organization such as the ACLU. Their universal notion as to what is right or isn't right for a local community has no appreciation for the individuals in that community choosing what they will or will not tolerate. God help any city (large or small) who is unfortunate enough to get the ACLU "involved" in their affairs.
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:32:55 AM PDT
by
Frapster
To: Frapster
What a great strategy. I shouldn't be allowed to pay county taxes because I won't let homosexuals into my house.
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:39:32 AM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Frapster
Why is such a suit being accepted by a Federal court? Why wouldn't they have bounced this to a local/State court first?
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:40:16 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: Frapster
Since the ACLU couldn't destroy the Boy Scouts in the courts, they are trying to weaken them with all these perpetual lawsuits. It's rather petty, and also thuggish.
The ACLU is also a tax exempt organization with heavy funding from left wing foundations, and they usually do not have to pick up court costs if they lose.
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:40:21 AM PDT
by
Hacksaw
To: Frapster
In the original debate on Balboa Park, the BSA demonstrated that they allowed non-BSA-based organizations to use the location. Thus, people barred from the BSA still get to use this section of Balboa Park, including the sections that the BSA is upgrading by putting money into buildings and other improvments there.
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:43:31 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: Hacksaw
Does the ACLU go into these cases on their own? Don't they have to have someone local that has "standing" in such a case? So they have to have local help ....
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:44:42 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: Frapster
On the Boy Scout/homosexual matter, one would think that the problems coming to light in the Catholic Church would have sent the ACLU lawyers slithering back under their rock
To: Frapster
Sounds like the city shouldn't own the land.
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:48:02 AM PDT
by
TheDon
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To: RonF
Does the ACLU go into these cases on their own? Don't they have to have someone local that has "standing" in such a case? So they have to have local help .... It shouldn't have been to hard for them to find some malcontent. It is generally known that they go "plaintiff shopping".
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posted on
05/24/2002 9:52:39 AM PDT
by
Hacksaw
To: Frapster
In a stunning new legal move, the ACLU has sued the Catholic Church for not allowing a fair share of heterosexuals to join as priests. The blatantly high level of homosexuals in the church (far above and beyond the level in the population) is discriminatory, said the organization, and has nothing to do with the fact that a significant percentage of homosexual priests are teenage boy molesters. "Our concern is NOT the safety of teenage boys," the organization reiterated, in case anyone didn't understand its motives.
To: Hacksaw
So send a donation every month to the Boy Scouts. Send them $50-$100 every month. If a 1000 people sent $100 a month they'd get $100,000 in donations every month which comes out to $1.2M every year. Up that from 1000 to 10,000 people and it's $12M. Give to your favorite causes. $100 is not too much for the average person with a job to give to a cause they claim to believe in. If it means no beer and cigarettes that month, then make a sacrifice.
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posted on
05/24/2002 10:03:21 AM PDT
by
dheretic
To: dheretic
So send a donation every month to the Boy Scouts. Send them $50-$100 every month. If a 1000 people sent $100 a month they'd get $100,000 in donations every month which comes out to $1.2M every year. Up that from 1000 to 10,000 people and it's $12M. Give to your favorite causes. $100 is not too much for the average person with a job to give to a cause they claim to believe in. If it means no beer and cigarettes that month, then make a sacrifice. I'm on board.
To: Frapster
The ACLU is really coming out of the closet now! For eighty years, they had a lot of folk fooled. Many people thought that they really were about Civil Liberties, and not just out there promoting a Fabian Socialist Agenda to deconstruct American Society. But now it is so patent, that only a fool can still imagine that their intentions are anything else. For background on their Fabian Socialist history, see
Leftwing Word Games & Religious Freedom.
Only a very sick minded person--or someone absolutely dedicated to undermining American Society--would even suggest that a male youth organization hire men who have renounced the male role, as male role models for male youth. Think about what this suit is really about, and let anyone tell me that the ACLU has any honorable purpose in this!
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
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posted on
05/24/2002 10:06:33 AM PDT
by
Ohioan
To: Frapster
It is truly amazing that the left bashes the Catholic church for placing homosexual "chicken hawks" in places of responsibilty to youths, and at the same time decries the BSA for not allowing the same thing.
O'Reilly is going nuts because he can't get his liberal Federal legislators to take on the Catholic church on this issue. O'Reilly just doesn't see the incongruency of the position, but Kennedy and Kerry sure do. Not only is the criticism of the Catholic church incongruent with the stand that the left has taken with the BSA, it would discredit the liberal attack on religion in the schools through the extreme interpretation of the separation of church and state.
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posted on
05/24/2002 10:09:32 AM PDT
by
Eva
To: dheretic
It's time for the scouts to massively fund raise and buy their own land. In the meantime, our tax dollars out there on the west coast are being used to fund homosexual entertainment centers and gay sex-fairs, as well as billions for the cost of AIDs (because homosexual men can't keep their private parts out of the rear-ends of other men). I will support the scouts to the hilt.
To: dheretic
It's time for the scouts to massively fund raise and buy their own land. In the meantime, our tax dollars out there on the west coast are being used to fund homosexual entertainment centers and gay sex-fairs, as well as billions for the cost of AIDs (because homosexual men can't keep their private parts out of the rear-ends of other men). I will support the scouts to the hilt.
To: dheretic
It's time for the scouts to massively fund raise and buy their own land. In the meantime, our tax dollars out there on the west coast are being used to fund homosexual entertainment centers and gay sex-fairs, as well as billions for the cost of AIDs (because homosexual men can't keep their private parts out of the rear-ends of other men). I will support the scouts to the hilt.
To: RonF
Why is such a suit being accepted by a Federal court? Why wouldn't they have bounced this to a local/State court first?And why are they suing the Boy Scouts?Shouldn't it be the city?
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posted on
05/24/2002 10:13:33 AM PDT
by
kennyo
To: Frapster
As I understand BS policy, they do not ban homos from Scouting. They ban homos who can't keep their pecker in their pants. I don't think that this lawsuit has any wings.
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posted on
05/24/2002 10:16:40 AM PDT
by
Flint
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