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China Airlines Plane Missing
Sky News ^ | 09:50 UK, Saturday May 25, 2002 | Sky News

Posted on 05/25/2002 1:59:07 AM PDT by colette_g

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To: Edgar Thorn
Heheheh.
81 posted on 05/25/2002 10:51:18 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: EggsAckley
Howdy E.A.

Midair explosion seen by hundreds of villagers and debris spread across a wide area. Nothing wrong here.

Also I note the report says: 'China Airlines was taken over in 2000 by its first woman chief executive officer, who set out to fix its appalling image' .... DUH! Uh-huh. Yeah, sure, like Asians are the least bit impressed with female management. The woman CEO is just a puppet figurehead.

Not one word in the article about the fact that China Air is owned 100% by the Peoples' Liberation Army.

As for me, I wonder who was on the plane !!!

82 posted on 05/25/2002 11:03:09 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Hey Tex!....I'm just waiting for the airline know-it-alls to show up and pontificate on how EVERY downed airliner is victim of an accident.....complete with nuts & bolts explanations. None of them could possibly be terrorist hits. Oh, well, it IS a holiday weekend; must be that nobody's home.

What I DO want to see are some side-by-side comparisons of this crash with the Rockaway crash in November. IMO, there CAN'T be just ONE Richard Reid. {;o)

83 posted on 05/25/2002 11:14:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: All
What a horror! Seven years ago, Muslim extremists (including a Msr. Yousef) in the Phillipines had their plans thwarted to simultaneously explode a dozen jumbo jets over the Pacific. They had already exploded one bomb, which was thankfully underpowered and killed only one person. Let's hope this is not a rehersal with a more powerful bomb to complete their dastardly plot! P.S. Msr Yousef was later convicted of participating in bombing the World Trade Center. These !@#$ are persistant and determined!
84 posted on 05/25/2002 3:00:02 PM PDT by Surrounded in Calif!
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To: ex-Texan
Not one word in the article about the fact that China Air is owned 100% by the Peoples' Liberation Army.

You're saying that a Taiwan based airline is owned by Red China's army?

Or am I misunderstanding something here?

85 posted on 05/25/2002 5:54:05 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: EggsAckley
BBC News Ticker reporting - "Taiwan airliner 'broke into four parts in mid-air' before plunging into sea.More soon." at BBC News
86 posted on 05/26/2002 3:07:50 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
China Jet Broke in Sky Before Crash

China Jet Broke in Sky Before Crash
Sun May 26, 6:06 AM ET

PENGHU, Taiwan (AP) - The China Airlines jet that crashed Saturday with 225 people aboard broke up into four parts in the sky before plunging into the Taiwan Strait, the chief Taiwanese crash investigator said Sunday.

Military radar provided a clear picture of the Boeing 747-200 splitting into four pieces, said Kay Yong, managing director of Taiwan's Aviation Safety Council.

"There was an in-flight breakup above the altitude of 30,000 feet. We are very positive about this," he said.

Rough seas slowed the search for bodies and debris from the jet. No survivors were found on Sunday and 78 bodies were pulled from the oily water that reeked of fuel.

Swells up to three meters 10 feet high battered the fishing boats and coast guard ships scanning the crash site north of the Taiwanese island chain of Penghu, about 30 miles off Taiwan's western coast.

Officials still did not know what caused the crash of Flight CI611, which went down Saturday afternoon about 20 minutes after taking off from Taipei. The crew did not send distress signals before the plane disappeared from radar screens.

The transcript of the pilots' conversation with the control tower was released Sunday and included no mention of any problem with the plane.

James L.S. Chang, a China Airlines vice president, declined to speculate on a possible cause of the crash, but he said it was unusual.

"At such a high altitude, 35,000 feet (10,600 meters), to have something go wrong — and the pilot didn't even have time to send a distress signal. Now, that's a big question mark," Chang said.

Near the crash site Sunday morning, the smell of fuel was thick in the air and there was a rainbow-colored glimmer on the sea from an oily slick as big as a football field.

Rescue officials said 78 bodies have been found. The passengers included 190 Taiwanese, 14 people from Macau and Hong Kong, nine Chinese citizens, one Singaporean and one Swiss citizen.

The Boeing 747-200 had been flying for 22 years, and China Airlines was to remove the jet from its fleet next month and deliver it to the small regional carrier Orient Thai Airline, which had already purchased the aircraft, China Airlines said.

China Airlines said the plane was well-maintained and had been completely overhauled last year.

87 posted on 05/26/2002 3:18:30 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
Thanks for the update.

Any 747 Jocks out there? Minor point, I guess, but could this plane get above 30K in 19 minutes? Even with minimum fuel for a 1 1/2 hour flight? Which reminds me - Center Fuel Tank!

88 posted on 05/26/2002 3:32:09 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
No problem. Starting to smell a bit fishier than I first thought . . . .
89 posted on 05/26/2002 3:36:18 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g;al baby
Exactly. Four-engine airplanes just don't fall out of the sky unless it is something catastrophic. Which seems to be what happened here. Either that old Center Fuel Tank theory, or it was a B... . .
90 posted on 05/26/2002 3:43:48 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Go on, say the B-word! I dare you ;o)
91 posted on 05/26/2002 3:45:35 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: ex-Texan
>>Not one word in the article about the fact that China Air is owned 100% by the Peoples' Liberation Army.

Are you serious?

92 posted on 05/26/2002 4:42:42 AM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
Sorry .... I confused China Airlines with Air China. Air China is owned 100% by the PLA.

Link Here

93 posted on 05/26/2002 5:44:32 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: leadpenny
Latest : Jet's Black Boxes Found

Investigators trying to find out why a China Airlines flight carrying 225 people crashed say they have located the plane's two black boxes on the sea bed.Investigators trying to find out why a China Airlines flight carrying 225 people crashed say they have located the plane's two black boxes on the sea bed.

It is hoped the find will help them establish what happened to the jumbo jet before it plunged into the Taiwan Strait on a flight from Taipei to Hong Kong.

94 posted on 05/26/2002 10:20:22 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
I'd really like to thank you for staying with this story.

With the exception of the plane's altitude, I wonder how many similarities this crash will have with TWA 800?

95 posted on 05/26/2002 11:05:51 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Including or excluding a poor quality explanation of what caused the aeroplane to fall out of the air ? :-)
96 posted on 05/26/2002 11:09:40 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: leadpenny
Now here's a strange twist from BBC News -

"The search is continuing for the plane's "black box" flight recorders. Contrary to earlier reports, they have not yet been located. "

97 posted on 05/26/2002 11:14:33 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
Yes. Just going back over the SKY News from your 94

Mystery

But he could not say why it had crashed.

The break up of flight CI 611 on Saturday had been suspected since farmers on the west coast of Taiwan, 47 miles from the offshore crash site, had picked plane debris off their fields.

That is a pretty strong westerly wind.

But the official confirmation only added to an uneasy mystery as to exactly why it broke apart.

Aviation experts have proposed several possibilities: an internal explosion, sudden cabin de-pressurisation, a mid-air collision, or even a military accident.

I wonder what they mean when they say, "military accident?" Another aircraft would have shown on radar. I would think a missile would also have shown up somewhere. All still very curious.

98 posted on 05/26/2002 11:27:55 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
I missed that 47 miles thing - whoa!
99 posted on 05/26/2002 12:31:59 PM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
I'd still like to know if it's normal for a 747 with 200 pax and fuel for a 1 1/2 hour flight to get to 30-35000' in 19 minutes?
100 posted on 05/26/2002 1:31:25 PM PDT by leadpenny
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