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Abortion Training Sparks Controversy (to be required curriculum in NY Hospital)
ap ^ | 5/27/2002 | ap

Posted on 05/27/2002 12:42:27 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Abortion Training Sparks Controversy

N E W Y O R K, May 27 —

A bold expansion of abortion training in the nation's largest public hospital system New York City's has sparked anger on one side of the abortion debate and admiration on the other.

Abortion-rights advocates, worried about a shortage of abortion providers, hope for a ripple effect as other hospital systems emulate the city and New York-trained doctors move to other states. Abortion opponents accuse the city which trains one-seventh of the nation's doctors of trying to force a controversial procedure into the medical mainstream.

Starting in July, abortion training will become part of the required curriculum, rather than a generally bypassed elective, for obstetrics and gynecology residents in New York's 11 public hospitals. Unless they opt out on moral or religious grounds, all residents will learn the latest abortion procedures, including use of the abortion pill mifepristone and other techniques requiring neither anesthesia nor an operating room.

If the program thrives "we'll have changed the face of abortion provision in this country," said Cristina Page of the New York branch of the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League. "It's going to make other programs question how they're delivering this care."

The New York State Right to Life Committee has accused Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the moderate Republican who approved the initiative, of trying to "shove child-killing down our throats." The committee has warned of "devastating" consequences as New York-trained OB-GYN residents start practices across the country.

Olivia Gans of the National Right to Life Committee criticized New York for obligating residents to "opt out" of abortion training rather than "opt in."

"You put the onus on a young doctor to be brave enough to stand out from the pack," she said.

Nationally, however, Gans predicted abortion won't become widely practiced by the next generation of doctors. Technological advances such as ultrasound are convincing medical students that fetuses are indeed living beings who should not be aborted, she said.

"The knowledge available now has made young doctors reluctant to go into abortion, because that would mean ending one of their two patients' lives," Gans said.

In South Dakota, home to some of the nation's toughest restrictions on abortions, medical student Jane van Dis already has decided she will perform the procedure and has battled to learn more about it.

Van Dis, 33, is finishing her third year at the University of South Dakota School of Medicine in Yankton, where she founded a chapter of Medical Students for Choice despite faculty warnings that such activism could hurt her career.

Van Dis said her curriculum virtually ignores contraception and abortion, and no faculty member has offered to assist, so she helped arrange for a doctor from Minneapolis to visit periodically to discuss abortion-related topics.

"There are pro-choice physicians in this state, but there's a lot of social pressure against speaking publicly," van Dis said.

Van Dis plans to pursue an OB-GYN career, perhaps after a residency in New York. The city's training initiative impresses her, in part because it has bipartisan support.

Medical schools and residency programs which avoid abortion instruction create a potentially dangerous gap, she said, citing the scenario of a doctor treating a woman for post-abortion complications.

"It ends up being an ethical disservice to the women they care for," she said.

The doctor who lectures periodically in Yankton is Peter D'Ascoli, medical director for Planned Parenthood of Minnesota and South Dakota. He and some colleagues from Minneapolis also work rotating shifts at a clinic in Sioux Falls, the only facility in South Dakota that acknowledges performing elective abortions.

With no options nearby, even women living 350 miles away in far-western South Dakota travel to Sioux Falls for abortions, D'Ascoli said.

"You send them back, and they have to deal with any complications in their home town," he said.

New York's initiative may bring little short-term change to South Dakota and other largely rural states with few abortion facilities. Planned Parenthood says about 85 percent of U.S. counties don't have abortion providers.

A more likely impact of the New York program, abortion-rights advocates say, will be to rejuvenate the national pool of abortion providers. Of the roughly 2,000 doctors who now perform abortions, more than half are over 50, and many are nearing retirement.

About 150 OB-GYN residents rotate annually though New York's public hospitals, and abortion-rights groups hope the new program will inspire other residency programs to expand abortion training options. At present, most OB-GYN residency programs don't require abortion training, though many offer it as an elective.

Lois Backus, executive director of Medical Students for Choice, said many medical students are pressing residency programs to make the training mandatory.

"On a 120-hour-a week schedule, there's just not any energy to pursue an elective," she said.

Backus said many medical students remain wary of anti-abortion extremism, although violence has subsided since the 1998 murder of abortion-providing obstetrician Barnett Slepian in upstate New York.

At a recent meeting of Backus' group, students questioned experienced abortion-providers about coping with harassment and anxiety.

"There was a lot of fear, a lot of concern about 'What will I be getting myself into,'" Backus said. "It was a relief to hear how rewarding and positive these physicians' lives actually were."

About 1.3 million American women have abortions annually; it is one of the nation's most common surgical procedures.

Dr. Allan Rosenfield, dean of Columbia University's School of Public Health, estimated that 15 percent of OB-GYN residents might refuse abortion instruction for reasons of conscience. For the others, he said, "no procedure should be singled out as not part of the training."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion
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1 posted on 05/27/2002 12:42:27 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW;MHGINTN;DOUGHTYONE;DON-O;NICK DANGER;PAUL ATREIDES;SENATOR PARDEK;RDB3;CARENOT;GLF...
And the fight continues... in two words: never surrender!"
2 posted on 05/27/2002 1:15:57 PM PDT by Lord Z
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I'm not a medical student, and I am pro-life. But I see nothing wrong with a pro-life student learning about how such procedures are done. I assume that if I did gain this knowledge it would only strengthen me in my decision never to participate in such killing.

Performing or assisting in such a procedure as part of the training would be another matter entirely. Even observing would be too much for me to handle.

3 posted on 05/27/2002 1:20:26 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Lord Z
Thanks for the ping, Z. =)

Welcome to FR.

4 posted on 05/27/2002 1:24:28 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: TLBSHOW
The pro-aborts have a problem. Abortion is a practice for medical bottom feeders. Despite what the pro-aborts say, most doctors want to save lives, not kill.

These programs are designed to force the issue, and try to make this scummy practice just another ho-hum procedure -- like taking out an appendix.

5 posted on 05/27/2002 1:25:35 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Lord Z
Abortion-rights advocates, worried about a shortage of abortion providers, hope for a ripple effect as other hospital systems emulate the city and New York-trained doctors move to other states.

Yet, they will not dip into their own pockets to set up a school to train them. I am against abortion, but as long as it is "legal", let the supporters pay for it out of their own pockets.

6 posted on 05/27/2002 1:44:18 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Restorer
Performing or assisting in such a procedure as part of the training would be another matter entirely. Even observing would be too much for me to handle.

The training in question is hands-on experience. The point, of course, is to desensitize physicians-to-be; once you've done some OJT in baby-killing, the theory goes, you aren't likely to look down on those who do it for a living. All of this comes thanks to the "moderate" Republican mayor of New York, as the article takes pains to emphasize.

7 posted on 05/27/2002 1:57:26 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: TLBSHOW
If someone dear to me were to have an abortion, regardless of how I felt about it I would want her doctor to be somebody who knew what they were doing.
8 posted on 05/27/2002 2:06:01 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: TLBSHOW
Unless they opt out on moral or religious grounds

But,

"You put the onus on a young doctor to be brave enough to stand out from the pack,"

But there should be many, not just one or two who opt out, making this statement disingenuous, IMHO.

9 posted on 05/27/2002 2:08:10 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: Chad Bagwell
Ping! Another opportunity.
10 posted on 05/27/2002 2:08:28 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: lady lawyer
The pro-aborts have a problem. Abortion is a practice for medical bottom feeders. Despite what the pro-aborts say, most doctors want to save lives, not kill.

Right! There's a reason why abortion training is "a generally bypassed elective."

11 posted on 05/27/2002 2:10:06 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Paul Atreides;tlbshow
hope for a ripple effect as other hospital systems emulate the city and New York-trained doctors move to other states.

But will the hospitals retain their tax money funnels from the fed, state and local governments?

12 posted on 05/27/2002 2:11:18 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: TLBSHOW
Don't doctors still take the hypocratic (is that the correct word?) to SAVE lives?
13 posted on 05/27/2002 2:12:59 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: RJCogburn
If someone dear to me were to have an abortion, regardless of how I felt about it I would want her doctor to be somebody who knew what they were doing.

And how exactly does forcing ALL doctors to learn how to perform D and C's remedy the poor skills of the less than 10% of MD's that are willing to become abortionists?

15 posted on 05/27/2002 2:17:59 PM PDT by Oschisms
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To: TLBSHOW
PRO-LIFE FREEPERS:

Sign the petition to end abortion.

Clickable link.

16 posted on 05/27/2002 2:19:33 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: TLBSHOW
New York's 11 public hospitals.

Is this what these hospitals want to teach doctors to do?

Scroll down to the images links.

17 posted on 05/27/2002 2:22:15 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: TLBSHOW; Saundra Duffy
Roe No More Ministry
18 posted on 05/27/2002 2:23:50 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: TLBSHOW
Backus said many medical students remain wary of anti-abortion extremism, although violence has subsided since the 1998 murder of abortion-providing obstetrician Barnett Slepian in upstate New York.

Well, that is a good thing.

19 posted on 05/27/2002 2:24:41 PM PDT by don-o
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"With no options nearby, even women living 350 miles away in far-western South Dakota travel to Sioux Falls for abortions, D'Ascoli said."

I have relatives in the Dakotas whom I visit once in awhile. Everybody in the Dakotas travels a long way for just about everything. It's a fact of life in that area, and they're used to it. People who can't live with that don't live there. Typical lefty whining.

20 posted on 05/27/2002 3:08:55 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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