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Before September 11th, JTF Knew But Bush Didn't?
The Real News ^ | May 28, 2002

Posted on 05/28/2002 12:57:18 PM PDT by majordivit

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"It Is Better To Die in Holy War than To Live in Peace"

O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, you cling heavily to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? Little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. (From the "peaceful" Muslim Koran, 9:38)

1 posted on 05/28/2002 12:57:18 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
Bump even though my reasons for supporting Israel are completely secular.
2 posted on 05/28/2002 1:01:10 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Larrylied
Here are some conservative Jews for you Larry.
3 posted on 05/28/2002 1:03:55 PM PDT by weikel
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To: majordivit
What or who is JTF?

I'm not going to some lame website to find out.

Whoever they are, this "after the fact" foolishness is getting old.

4 posted on 05/28/2002 1:09:09 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
That so called 'lame' website happens to be the only place where you will read the real news. Yes. JTF..The Jewish Task Force predicted 8 years ago that the muslims would come back and destroy the twin towers.

And why shouldn't they take credit for making that accurate prediction? The bottom line is that JTF is right now making more predictions which may come to pass. If we do not take the vital, necessary steps which JTF has outlined, then America will face a holocaust which will make 9 11 seem tiny in comparison.

5 posted on 05/28/2002 1:30:52 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
If the Jewish Task Force wants energy independence, then it needs to talk to its own constituency, most of whom vote for the liberal Democrats who will NEVER allow this country to become free of foreign oil.

Sounds like the JTF has some work to do in its own house.

6 posted on 05/28/2002 1:42:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: weikel
There are also some very nice conservative Jews at Honestreporting.com


7 posted on 05/28/2002 1:46:59 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: sinkspur
liberal Democrats who will NEVER allow this country to become free of foreign oil.

Surely upon reflection you don't actually favor making this nation free from foreign oil do you? If you do, Earth in the Balance must be your favorite book and somehow I tend to doubt that it is.

8 posted on 05/28/2002 1:52:05 PM PDT by Torie
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To: LarryLied;Illbay;jmp702;sneakypete;RCW2001;Askel5
Chaim Ben Pesach, aka Victor Vancier, is the spokesman for the New York–based Jewish Task Force.

October 27, 1987: Victor Vancier, the former National Chairman of the JDL, was sentenced to ten years in prison for bombing attacks at the Soviet diplomatic residence in New York and at Soviet cultural performances.

So what is this convicted terrorist's website doing being linked to Free Republic as a main article?

9 posted on 05/28/2002 1:56:26 PM PDT by mv1
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To: sinkspur
Why didn't GW make energy independance a vital issue? Why didn't GW make a speech to the American people from the oval office laying out the critical national security importance involved with enacting a crash energy independance plan? GW didn't do it.

GW proposed a bill which called for more energy production but he didn't push for it at all. He let the traitors in the US Senate vote down bills to raise CAFE standards and bills to open up ANWR for Oil drilling which would have reduced America's independance on foreign oil.

In fact, GW acquiesed to his brother's wishes by stopping oil drilling off the coast of Florida. I guess the people of Florida have been brainwashed by the psuedo environmentalists.

JTF doesn't just need to get 'their own house' in order. They have been exposing the self hating left wing jews for years. Go to their web site and read what JTF says about the jewish establishment in America and Israel. JTF is the only sane voice in the jewish community. All the rest belong in mental asylums. But there are also brainwashed gentile Americans who have not heard JTF making their case.

What JTF really needs is to find that rich jew or righteous gentile who would contribute millions of dollars so that JTF can get their message out to a national audience.

11 posted on 05/28/2002 2:05:21 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
There is a line on that web page about not making offensive or bizarre statements...then I read some of the text and see:

horrendous Muslim Nazi attacks

demons Bill Clinton, Yitzchak Rabin and Yasser Arafat

Arab Hitler Yasser Arafat

While I personally have no qualms with your colorful descriptions of these particular individuals, that approach does not always go over well with the masses. If you want Bush to listen to you, my advice would be to clean up your website of this type of rhetoric..maybe then he and his administration would take you more seriously.

12 posted on 05/28/2002 2:07:16 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: mv1
The JDL disrupted Soviet activties in the USA when it was vitally important for the Soviets to engage with the USA in detente. They didn't kill people. They disrupted the Moscow ice show by placing certain items on the ice surface. The JDL created such a problem for the Soviets that they were forced to allow 2 million Jews who were suffering under Soviet persecution to emigrate.

It was not the left wing Jewish establishment or anybody else who got the 2 million jews out of the Soviet Union. It was the activies of the JDL. They are proud of that accomplishment. And they should be. They alone were responsible for getting 2 million jews out of Soviet Russia.

13 posted on 05/28/2002 2:14:49 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
If you are a wealthy Jew or righteous Gentile with the needed millions of dollars, please contact us immediately so that we can make the necessary arrangements.

Cash or money order accepted!

Later on they trash Simon Wiesenthal as a traitorous self-hating Jew. Now that's hard-core!
14 posted on 05/28/2002 2:23:45 PM PDT by Deathmonger
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To: Deathmonger
This was quoted from the web site, not the article.
15 posted on 05/28/2002 2:24:57 PM PDT by Deathmonger
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To: Torie
Surely upon reflection you don't actually favor making this nation free from foreign oil do you?

Actually, no. I'd rather use all the Arab oil we possibly can and keep ours in the ground. I'd also like for the US to link up more closely with Russia and use that as leverage against the Saudis.

16 posted on 05/28/2002 2:30:52 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: majordivit
One thing that is MISSING should be......

IMMEDIATE EXPULSION OF ANY PALESTINIAN and SAUDI NATIONAL......

IMMEDIATE FREEZING OF ALL THEIR ASSETS....

Imeediate NOTICE TO PALESTINIANS THAT THEIR LEADERS ARE NOW OPEN FOR IMMEDIATE LIQUIDATION!!!!!!

17 posted on 05/28/2002 2:33:36 PM PDT by Roger_W_Isom
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To: majordivit
Why didn't GW make energy independance a vital issue?

He did. You tell us why Schumer, Feingold, Levin, Lieberman, Feinstein and Wellstone voted against ANWR. Tell us why those who should be the most concerned about the USA sending money to the Saudis or Saddam are the ones who KILL every proposal to use our own natural resources.

18 posted on 05/28/2002 2:34:32 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: glorygirl
fyi
19 posted on 05/28/2002 2:35:13 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: majordivit
I wonder if the JDL had a hand in selling secrets given to the Israelis by Jonathan Pollard to the Soviets in exchange for these 2 million Jews?

Seems like the JDL would make a nice front for control of the Israeli spy network in the U.S.

20 posted on 05/28/2002 2:36:42 PM PDT by Illbay
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