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Trade Center warning baffles police - An urban myth turns out to be true but what does it mean?
MS NBC ^ | NEW YORK, Oct. 12 2001 | By Jonathan Alter

Posted on 05/28/2002 7:42:52 PM PDT by vannrox

Trade Center warning baffles police


An ‘urban myth’ turns out to be true — but what does it mean?

By Jonathan Alter
SPECIAL TO MSNBC



NEW YORK, Oct. 12 — I went to Brooklyn this week in search of an “urban myth” about the World Trade Center attacks. What I came back with was no longer a myth — it was cold, chilling fact. But it didn’t clear anything up for me; that the “myth” was true only made matters murkier. Was word of the attacks on the street beforehand? I wanted to find out.


YOU KNOW the “myths” I mean. Maybe you heard the one about the “friend of a “friend” who was stood up by her Afghan boyfriend, who then e-mailed her on September 10 not to get on a commercial airliner the next day or go out to the malls on Halloween. The FBI said yesterday it was not a “credible threat.”


The story I was looking for had circulated less widely and in more general form. It recounted the story of a kid who bragged around school before the attacks that the World Trade Center was going to be destroyed. On October 11, an aggressive young reporter for The JournalNews of Westchester, N.Y. — Jeffrey Scott Shapiro — published a article that tracked the story down to New Utrecht High School in Brooklyn. Shapiro identified a teacher who witnessed a freshman in her class saying: “Do you see those two buildings? They won’t be standing there next week.”


“This is the only case we know of where someone said the World Trade Center was coming down prior to it happening,” a police source told me. I had to take a closer look.


SCHOOL OF RICH DIVERSITY


New Utrecht High School in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, is a wonderful melting pot. The day I visited, two girls — one Chinese, one Russian — sat poring over SAT prep material near polling booths set up for the the New York City mayoral runoff. I heard at least three languages spoken I couldn’t even begin to identify. The school offers courses in Urdu because 116 students come from Pakistan.


Outside the school, Bensonhurst has changed immeasurably since the days of black versus white racial confrontation in the 1980s. Immigrants, many of whom speak little English, far outnumber native speakers on the streets. The restaurants and shops offer food from dozens of countries.


Since September 11, hundreds of leads have poured into the local police precinct, but incidents have been few. Someone tried to throw a Molotov cocktail into a mosque, but it hit a canopy pole instead of the building and did little damage. Reports that Arab immigrants had been cheering at a local supermarket after the towers collapsed (a frequent rumor around the country) were investigated and turned out to be false. So were the dozens of rumors of Arabs mysteriously disappearing from their homes just before the attack.


The police say they have been working closely with two of the three mosques in the area. One is run by an Irishman who converted to Islam and became an imam; the other by a baggage handler for American Airlines. This latter fact, not surprisingly, aroused a great interest at first. His friends in the community thought he might lose his job. But the imam is backed by the airline and remains close to the police in the area. “I feel sorry for the dark-skinned people in the neighborhood,” says a police officer. “They’ve done nothing wrong and most have been cooperative.”


STRANGER THAN FICTION


It’s that context that makes the story of the Pakistani freshman so strange. I can’t tell you who filled in the details for me; the heat is on and the FBI is particularly jumpy. Both teacher and student have, with the help of the school, successfully ducked all efforts to contact them. But here’s what I’ve pieced together:


On September 6 — five days before the attack — Antoinette DiLorenzo, who teaches English as a second language to a class of Pakistani immigrants, led a class discussion about world events. She asked a freshman (his name has been withheld): “What are you looking at?” The youth was peering out the third floor window toward lower Manhattan. After he made the remark about the World Trade center not being there next week, the teacher didn’t immediately think much of it, though it stuck in her mind.


On September 11, school was canceled after the attack and again the following day. On Thursday September 13, a clearly agitated DiLorenzo, saying she had been afraid to come forward, reported the incident to the principal’s office. “It scared the hell out of everyone,” according to a source at the school.


The police and FBI were alerted and twelve NYPD officers entered the school and secured DiLorenzo’s classroom for three hours, locking the doors with the students inside. While the students were brought lunch and a movie and told to be calm, the youth in question and his older brother, a sophomore, were taken to be interrogated by the FBI, stationed at the police precinct nearby.


DiLorenzo, the key to the believability of this story, was also questioned. She was described by school officials as having a superb and unblemished record in the New York school system. A police source described her as “100 percent credible.”


Moreover, according to police, the youth confirmed having made the September 6 statement about the towers. At the moment he did so, his older brother elbowed him, said he had been “kidding,” and the youth in question agreed. The younger brother seemed upset and said he was “having a bad day.” When asked why, he said that his father was supposed to come back from Pakistan that day. Further details of the interrogation are unclear, in part because the FBI is not discussing it.


Because of the suspension of air travel, it took the father a few days to return. About a week after September 11, the father visited the school and angrily asked why his sons had been interrogated by the authorities. He said that his family’s constitutional rights had been violated.


Having done nothing wrong beyond spreading a rumor that turned out to be true, the student was returned to his classroom. He remains in the school.


The FBI placed the boy’s family under surveillance but, according to sources, does not see a connection to the plot to blow up the towers. The case remains under investigation, but with thousands of leads, it doesn’t appear to be going anywhere.


TRUTH NO ANSWER


So what to make of all of this? There is no doubt in my mind that the story is true. But what does it mean?


There are only three possibilities: 1.) the youth was clairvoyant; 2.) the youth, knowing about the 1993 bombing, was just venting anger in a particularly timely way; 3.) word of the attack on the World Trade Center was rumored in his family or neighborhood and he heard about it.


Investigators don’t know what to believe. On the one hand, one argues, “This is too much of a coincidence that the kid said this” before September 11. On the other hand, scores of tips in the area have not checked out when pursued by police. One police officer says he would need a couple of other similarly confirmed cases to conclude definitively that word was on the street.


In the meantime, police and school authorities in Brooklyn are looking ahead. “It’s creepy,” one told me before I got on the subway to go back to the office. “But what the hell are we going to do about it now?”







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To: xm177e2
Local Houston newsbabe, Lisa Faronda, called Hamas
"Hamas Activists"
The next day a Hamas "activist" blew himself up killing and injuring other people, too. I thought, well if they get any more active, she can bend over, put her head firmly between her knees, grab her own ankles, and kiss her ass GOOD BYE!!! They won't stop until we stop them - or they blow us all up.
21 posted on 05/29/2002 8:47:35 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: swarthyguy
Beause the implications are staggering and would expose the lie

Yes, and it makes me angry that so much is kept hidden!

22 posted on 05/29/2002 3:15:06 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Bobby777
Calendar and related story ping. Maybe someone else who remembers the story of the American Businessman in Egypt can find that one. It was on Newsmax.
23 posted on 06/21/2002 3:21:45 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
thanks for the ping ... you know I find it hard to believe that only the hijackers knew about this ... there just seem to have been too many signs and "mere mentions" of this stuff ... and nobody in those communities said a thing ... which says a lot ... and none of it is good ...
24 posted on 06/21/2002 3:34:33 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777

I think the news was widespread especially in the islamic world; hell, even we had terror warnings, the US Fleet in Bahrein put out to sea last August, terror warnings to Americans were broadcast on CNN, WordNetDaily had news of the bust of InfoCom in Dallas, an ISP catering to the johadi/charity set.

Haven't found that newsmax posting. You may want to do a search here or on newsmax. The date of the article was May 25 or May 28.


25 posted on 06/21/2002 3:51:18 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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26 posted on 11/03/2003 12:22:09 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: vannrox
BTTT A little reminder ... in pre- 9/11 2001 apparently there was widespread and quite specific knowledge in Muslim communities that there would be an air attack on New York City.

See also this 2002 Village Voice article: I Spy My Not-So-Secret Life as an FBI Informant.

Also from 2001: Post Here Evidence that Some in Muslim Community Had Prior Knowledge of 9-11 Attack

27 posted on 09/12/2010 2:24:39 PM PDT by Inappropriate Laughter (Obama: Another illegal alien living in public housing)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

“Air Attack” might be too specific. The WTC had been bombed back in 1993 by agents associated with Iraq, so there were groups who believed that the WTC would be hit again.

There was an Islamic poster made back in 2000 of an airliner ramming a WTC tower, though.

Also back in 2000, on 9/11, a fanatic in Florida flew a rental plane into a twin-engine aircraft, killing all aboard both one year before the 9/11/2001 aerial attack.


28 posted on 09/12/2010 2:31:37 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

http://www.september11news.com/Mysteries3.htm


29 posted on 09/12/2010 2:37:41 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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