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Their Own Worst Enemies - A bad midterm outlook for the GOP
National Review ^ | May 29, 2002 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 05/29/2002 8:44:38 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen

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To: Common Tator
We must re-take the Senate, if for no other reason than to confirm our judges. Next two years will see up to 3 new appointments to the US Supreme Court. If Leahy is still judiciary chair, we'll never get conservatives confirmed.

National Review is wrong. Bush/GOP ain't perfect, but they need a mandate and a majority to act.

141 posted on 05/29/2002 10:33:34 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: WIMom
What alternative is there?

How about insist that Bush uphold his oath of office and his duty in the Constitution to FAITHFULLY EXECUTE the laws of this land.

The democRATS clearly committed many serious crimes the last 9 years. So far, Bush and Ashcroft haven't even seen fit to INVESTIGATE those credible allegations. And unless they do, I will be one of those sitting out the next election (and I'm a life long Republican). There are NO EXCUSES for not investigating matters as serious as election tampering, blackmail of Republicans, treason, murder and mass murder. NONE. Investigate or I walk.

And, by the way, if they do investigate, they won't have to fight to win the Senate or keep the House. The voters (including many democRATS) will be so appalled by what happened that they will overwhelmingly toss the democRATS out of office. That's because this isn't about sex. This is about collusion with our enemies to subvert our election process. This is about massive voter fraud. This is about invasion of privacy inorder to blackmail members of the other party and perhaps even members of their own party. This is about selling US secrets and technology for campaign cash and to enrich themselves. This is about murdering high level government employees to keep them quiet. This is about abusing the IRS, the FBI, the military and just about every other government entity you can name. This is about using the liberal media to cover up their crimes.

As far as I'm concerned, if they don't investigate, then all they are doing is sending a message to the democRATS that they can steal future elections and the GOP hasn't the spine to stop them. If they don't investigate, then they are telling me that the democRATS have something over them that is WORSE than the crimes the democRATS committed.

NO EXCUSES. I don't expect Republicans to be perfect saints. I don't expect Republicans to push every social issue I like. I don't even expect Republicans to do much in the way of making government smaller. But I do expect them to uphold the laws and make sure that the elite and parties are not above the laws. And they don't appear to be doing that. And if any of you think they are ... then PROVE IT.

142 posted on 05/29/2002 10:33:46 AM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: RightResponse
"I actually agree with the too much spending and acquescing(sp?).. but politics is many times about timing, and W can't let the media and dems brand him as hard line right wing right now.. someone else said, we're only a couple of votes away in the senate.. I was really responding to a stay away attitude, or worse voting away the power of the bully pulpit."

Politics is about timing and possibilities. Bush may be missing both - if he truly is a conservative. When his support is this high, he should be trumpeting his philosphy, but he is not. Why not? Those high ratings can disappear overnight and then Bush has no capital to spend.

Using the bully pulpit example, here is where I think that W is missing out. He certainly gets more camera time or can, anytime he wants it. He can use that time to point out why he does what he does - he can educate the voter. He has done that a few times, but not enough. Just as a personal example, I worked the polls for the primaries. I always engage people in discussion when I can. I'll throw out a comment to get a reaction - usually to a dem poll worker - and they do react. Then I take a minute or two and give them some real life examples of why their thinking is wrong and almost invariably they will agree with me. No, they don't fall to their knees and convert, but they start to see past their preconceived notions - especially about guns. I call it 'getting past the sound bite'. Involve them in your examples and they pay more attention and they start to learn. I try to do that everyday, one on one. Think of the possibilities of the POTUS speaking to millions. First, he can (and must) control the sound bite. Then he has to get past it and win people over. Now is the time for him to do it while his ratings are high.

143 posted on 05/29/2002 10:34:03 AM PDT by Badray
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To: arkfreepdom
Ok, if you say so
144 posted on 05/29/2002 10:35:21 AM PDT by poet
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To: Zack Nguyen
Bump-er-rooney!
145 posted on 05/29/2002 10:39:53 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: Charlotte Corday; Badray
If you actually believe you'll have any chance in hell of defeating the military of the U. S. government when you become an enemy of the state, you must have the loopy optimism of James Smith in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."
146 posted on 05/29/2002 10:40:07 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: WIMom
"What alternative is there?"

This is the catch 22 of the entire game.

Our government is dragging us slowly toward socialism. The taxes that we producers are paying, is at or over 50%. Our basic freedoms are being eroded away inch by inch and every election is won or lost over a new costly government program.

If the gop as a party ran for offices with promises of a tax overhaul, repeal of useless regulations, and an end to wasteful spending, I'd be in your camp today.

The gop isn't even paying lip service to conservative issues anymore, let alone makeing any efforts to enact change.

The really bad thing about it is that the gop knows that the choices are limited and is more than willing to take advantage.

147 posted on 05/29/2002 10:40:28 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Millions of conservatives stayed home on Election Day and the GOP lost the popular vote for three straight elections-- what a rebuke of Clintoon!
148 posted on 05/29/2002 10:42:50 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: semper_libertas
A gross violation of the Constitution makes me WORK HARDER to bring the GOP back to the CONSTITUTION....NOT send me off to la la land with the Dems or a third party....!!!! I hear what you are saying, and share your frustration, but I don't agree with your methods of correction.
150 posted on 05/29/2002 10:48:07 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: BeAChooser
I want more than anything to see the slime in prison, where he belongs, along with his band of thugs. Maybe before September there were investigations, maybe there still are. It's going to take a lot of time and a lot of concrete proof to nail clinton.

But the issue is gaining control of the senate and keeping control of congress, and severing any power the liberals have. I want more than anything to have all politicians abide by the constitutional oath they took. Until we have the liberals out of power, we will never be able to create any change, we will never be able to uphold the constitution, because the liberals want us to be socialist/communist nation. They will fight with every dirty trick to make it happen. We can not let it happen.

151 posted on 05/29/2002 10:49:27 AM PDT by WIMom
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To: Miss Marple
The major goal politically is to regain the Senate, so that we can get those judges and also get some decent legislation, like further tax cuts and social security reform and vouchers.

Those are good things, but I would add to them a ban on partial-birth abortion, passage of nation-wide parental notification, and the adding of a few staunch pro-life judges on the SC and circuit courts. I would also add an across-the-board reduction in federal spending. (But that will never happen as the parties are presently constructed, no matter how many Republicans there are in the House and Senate.)

Therefore, hold your nose and vote Republican, even if it is Arlen Specter or Olympia Snowe.

Never under any circumstances would my conscience allow me to vote for those two. They are viciously pro-abortion, and Specter voted against Clinton's conviction. (Snowe may have too, I am not sure.) I have my doubts as to whether either of them would vote for a pro-life SC appointment.

I am blessed, I think, to live in a state (Texas) where I only occasionally have a conflict between my conscience and political expediency. If I lived in the Northeast I would probably never vote Republican for federal offices. I would almost be a man without a party.

153 posted on 05/29/2002 10:57:28 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: WIMom
YOU are so correct, WIMom.....liberals want ONE thing - strife and divisiveness......they create programs that don't work and then complain they need more money....then blame conservatives too.....it's their little "round robin" trick....and I'm sick of it, and I believe a lot of other people are waking up to the "trick." I'm praying Pres. Bush is successful breaking their cycle, even though right now it's hard to watch the domestic spending....but I have no other choice than to follow his lead at this time - otherwise we end up down the road with ANOTHER Clinton in the future.....the HOUSE and SENATE are KEY! And the FIRST things we need to ADDRESS! It's hard for some to believe we are not just drinking "kool-aid" but I believe we are creating a NEW Recipe of COOL-AID for the DEMS to Drink!
154 posted on 05/29/2002 10:59:22 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Mudboy Slim
"How is this Conservatism?"

It isn't.

"Are you saying after we pick up 53-55 seats in the Senate and an extra 10 seats in Congress we are gonna drop Federal Education spending from $57 Billion to $40 Billion in 2005?"

Nope.

"Or decreasing the Farm Bill from $191 Billion to $100 Billion?"

Nope...never said that, either.

"We're going the wrong direction..."

Yup.

"...and I don't see that Dubyuh even recognizes that it's wrong..."

I've absolutely no idea -- whatsoever -- what is going through the man's head; so, why-oh-why would you be asking me?
That'd be especially true of some of the things this POTUS has done, recently; but, then again?
He didn't ask or tell me what he's up to nor why.

You must understand, he didn't need to tell me anything, a'tall.
He's the POTUS, see?
I'm just a schmuck Mud, who pays his taxes & prays to God they don't take even more when all's said & done.

Lookit; when I (& millions of other Americans) voted for the guy?
I'm sure he took that to mean, "Do whatever you feel is right for the nation."
As POTUS then, what he's done -- apparently -- is what he thinks is in fact, right for the country.

"...so what am I being patient for...more of the same?!!"

I dunno, Mud; you tell me what you're waiting for.
Lunch? Vacation? The weekend? {g}
Can only speak for myself, Mud; and, I'm being patient 'lest I blow a mainspring.
Blowing my top over things I've absolutely no control over -- for me -- sours even the things I can control.
Crazy decisions & events I'm quickly finding out I can only at best, bear witness to; & pray I'm seeing what's really in front of my eyes.

That's simply a fundamental coping mechanism for life in these days, my friend.

Nevertheless, the 'Rats are simply waiting to scream "FIRE" in a packed theater over whatever he does, or doesn't do.

...& that's just a fact we all should know, by now.

155 posted on 05/29/2002 11:01:10 AM PDT by Landru
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To: chesty_puller
LOL! Hi There! That's what happens when I read too many anti-Republican, anti-Bush comments! And too many comments about why people are going to stay home from voting!

This is the real me that has had it with whiners and naysayers! Not to mention RATS pretending to be Conservatives!

Moderate the Bush/Cheney Yahoo Group (formerly eGroup) and we have had so many virus', negative comments, porn, etc., sent to our group by people pretending to be conservative and Republican, it has made me decide to fight back. Can only read so many moronic comments in one day, and I have seen a lot since we went to new posters being moderated. Some of the comments on here resemble comments I am seeing in emails to the Group.

I am still the regular person that is just fed up! I want to TAKE BACK the SENATE and KEEP the HOUSE and as my Dad taught me -- If you don't vote, then you should keep your mouth shut because you have lost the right to complain! That is not his exact words but you get the point!

Have a good one!

156 posted on 05/29/2002 11:08:43 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
What do they think Government would have grown to with Gore in office?

A GOP-controlled House would never let Gore get away with growing government as quickly as Bush has. Conservatives would be up in arms if Gore even attempted bills we've seen enacted. I'm beginning to think gridlock is the best thing that can happen to DC, because neither party is advancing legislation I care to see enacted.

157 posted on 05/29/2002 11:09:43 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Miss Marple
"The major goal politically is to regain the Senate, so that we can get those judges and also get some decent legislation, like further tax cuts and social security reform and vouchers. Staying home will not help get the Senate and will endanger President Bush's second term,"

I won't be staying home, and I don't think many others will be either. I don't agree with the strategy of giving the Dems everything they want as the way to get more Republicans in congress but I could be wrong. So as you say, I will hold my nose and vote a republican ticket, this time.

If the Rebublicans don't get a majority in the Senate, quit spending money, and quit kissing the Dems butts after this fall, then they have no one to blame but themselves if they lose in 2004. Myself, I will vote Libertarian.

PS. I'll never stay home. Always vote.

158 posted on 05/29/2002 11:12:27 AM PDT by monday
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To: Redleg Duke
If Republicans are stealing our money just as fast as the Dems do, then what good are they? A thief by any other name is still a thief.
159 posted on 05/29/2002 11:13:46 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: GraniteStateConservative; Charlotte Corday
" If you actually believe you'll have any chance in hell of defeating the military of the U. S. government when you become an enemy of the state, you must have the loopy optimism of James Smith in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.""

Allow me to address a few of your assumptions and assertions:

1] Who says that I am not already 'an enemy of the state'?

2] Who says that the 'military of the U.S. Government' will be fighting on the side of the U.S. Government should the fecal matter impact the oscillating device?

3] If it gets to that point, I'd rather die fighting for our freedom than live in slavery.

4] What's wrong with optimism? If I wasn't an optimist, I wouldn't be spending my time typing and talking.

160 posted on 05/29/2002 11:15:39 AM PDT by Badray
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