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Mexicans, Legal & Illegal, Transform USA
National Anxiety Center ^ | May 29, 2002 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 05/29/2002 2:42:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 05/29/2002 2:42:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Can someone please post an appropriate graphic showning transformation to third world status.It will comfort me.
2 posted on 05/29/2002 2:45:52 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Tailgunner Joe
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3 posted on 05/29/2002 2:48:36 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Congress and GWB are going to continue pushing 245(i) - the amnesty for illegals amendment. If they can't get it passed before the 2002 elections, they know they can after the election--when it is safer to do so. They won't stop until they get it passed--unless those like Tancredo can gain enough support to stop it.
5 posted on 05/29/2002 2:53:28 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"It has risen an astonishing 58 percent to 35.3 million."

Finally, someone comes out with a reasonably believable figgure as to how many illegals are here.

285,000,000 U.S. Population
35,300,000 Illegal Mexicans
249,700,000 How many of this remaining figgure are illegals from other countries? Fifteen million? Twenty million? How many are legal immigrants from third world nations? Ten to Twenty million, counting all forms of legal immigration including that ever gaping loop hole "Political Asylum"?

6 posted on 05/29/2002 3:05:24 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is why, at current rates, between legal and illegal immigration into this nation, we will double our population within the lifetimes of today’s college students.

In the last decade, the 11.2 million immigrants who arrived, plus the 6.4 million children born to immigrants living here, equaled almost 70% of the nation’s population growth. That’s just flat-out too much, too fast.

Hmm. Let's see...

Uncontrolled population growth is bad....unless it's the result of uncontrolled immigration.

Crime is bad....unless it's the result of aliens breaking immigration (and often other) laws.

Wage depression is bad...unless it happens because immigrants are "doing the jobs Americans won't do"...for the depressed wages.

Expansion of overtaxed state educational and welfare facilities is bad...unless necessary to accommodate an uncontrolled inflow of immigrants, both legal and illegal....I mean, "undocumented."

Leaving our borders undefended against hostile infiltration and incursion is bad...unless otherwise all those immigrants would have to enter the US legally, if at all.

OK, I think I got it now. I hope we all get it soon, before it gets us.

7 posted on 05/29/2002 3:05:30 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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8 posted on 05/29/2002 3:32:37 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: hannosh4LtGovernor
I'd vote for you in a New York City heartbeat!
9 posted on 05/29/2002 4:01:00 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: healey22;lutine;Right_Makes_Might;wku man;sonofliberty2;fishing fool;kattracks;sarcasm...
I believe this whole thing will break loose within 12-18 months.
10 posted on 05/29/2002 6:50:54 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: hannosh4LtGovernor
You got my vote.
11 posted on 05/29/2002 6:52:17 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: MissAmericanPie
Pretty sad statement. We don't even have an idea how many MILLIONS of illegal aliens are in our country, as many tune into the big game and enjoy the rapidly warming water.
12 posted on 05/29/2002 6:54:56 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: TomGuy
Congress and GWB are going to continue pushing 245(i) - the amnesty for illegals amendment.

This, in my mind, is nothing less than a hostile act against the American people.

13 posted on 05/29/2002 6:59:52 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: MissAmericanPie
35,300,000 Illegal Mexicans

It states the Hispanic population has grown 58% to 35.3 million. It does not state that those are illegals.

There are between 8 and 11 million illegal aliens in the US from all different countries, not just Mexico.

The remainder of the 35.3 million Hispanics are legal residents or first generation Americans.

14 posted on 05/29/2002 7:04:18 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: hannosh4LtGovernor
You've got my vote, Paul. Of course I'll be outvoted by the illegals in my county.
15 posted on 05/29/2002 7:10:47 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Marine Inspector
But, I have heard border patrol dispute these figgures of 8 to 11 million. They say you can double and even triple the 8 or 11 million to get a more legitimate figgure.

I never seem to be able to trust Government numbers, or polls, or statistics, or promises. So you think it really is around 8 to 11 mil? Your's is an opinion I can respect.

16 posted on 05/29/2002 7:17:27 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: TomGuy
The downfall of Bush!
17 posted on 05/29/2002 7:46:22 PM PDT by doc
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To: MissAmericanPie
This is the result of nation’s growing Hispanic population throughout the 1990s. It has risen an astonishing 58 percent to 35.3 million.

Not to worry. They are only taking jobs which Americans don't wan't. Or jobs that Americans can't get because Affirmative Action also applies to these Border Bounders.

The really Big Losers? The "African-American" community, who have been pushed out of accessible jobs. When the Hispanics start closing in on Public Safety, Public School, and the other areas of the Public Sector, like Welfare Departments, there's going to be blood in the corridors as they challenge what the present recumbents regard as their race-based entitlements.

18 posted on 05/29/2002 7:51:26 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Marine Inspector
Based on your experience, do you agree with the estimate that the Border Patrol is only stopping 16 to 25 percent of all of the illegals trying to enter the country?

Do you believe we could stop 90 percent with 30' high, guarded walls?

How deep would the foundation have to be to prevent tunneling?

19 posted on 05/29/2002 8:10:42 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Kenny Bunk
Not to worry. They are only taking jobs which Americans don't wan't.

Wouldnt it be more accurate to say that you dont care because you dont percieve it to be affecting you personally. It must be nice and cheap to be so charitable when your giving away things that dont matter to you, or belong to you.

20 posted on 05/29/2002 8:25:42 PM PDT by PuNcH
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