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The Real History of the Crusades
crisismagazine ^ | April 1, 2002 | Thomas F. Madden

Posted on 05/29/2002 6:43:31 PM PDT by RebelDawg

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Some real history for my left leaning liberal "friends"

--Dawg
1 posted on 05/29/2002 6:43:32 PM PDT by RebelDawg
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To: RebelDawg
Crusades to the East were in every way defensive wars. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression—an attempt to turn back or defend against Muslim conquests of Christian lands

Not the history of the popular press.

2 posted on 05/29/2002 6:54:17 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: RebelDawg
Great Post....thanks.
3 posted on 05/29/2002 6:54:41 PM PDT by Icthus
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To: Icthus
Anytime friend ;-)

It amazes me how the liberal press/scholars have distorted history. I have long time close friends who have been led to believe the liberal spin on the crusades. It drives me crazy sometimes! Grrrrrrr!
4 posted on 05/29/2002 6:57:23 PM PDT by RebelDawg
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To: RebelDawg
Zoroastrianism is extinct? Man how the time flies!

I was just watching him on the Disney channel.

5 posted on 05/29/2002 6:59:08 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Askel5
Can you read this and tell me what to think?
6 posted on 05/29/2002 7:04:03 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: RebelDawg
BUMP
7 posted on 05/29/2002 7:10:54 PM PDT by remaininlight
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To: RebelDawg
BRAVO BUMP
8 posted on 05/29/2002 7:20:50 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: RebelDawg
Good find Dawg, Thanks!
9 posted on 05/29/2002 7:24:08 PM PDT by redhawk
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To: RebelDawg
What the Orthodox Christians suffered at the hands of the turks/muslims in the Balkans and points East was just awful.
10 posted on 05/29/2002 7:24:41 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: RebelDawg
Reminds one of the demonizing of the Franco in the Spanish Civil War by the same liberal press/media. No mention is ever made of the Communist support for the Insurgents provided by Stalin and their rape of nuns in convents.
11 posted on 05/29/2002 7:33:28 PM PDT by Cato the Censor
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To: RebelDawg
Reminds one of the demonizing of Franco in the Spanish Civil War by the same liberal press/media. No mention is ever made of the Communist support for the Insurgents provided by Stalin and their rape of nuns in convents.
12 posted on 05/29/2002 7:34:38 PM PDT by Cato the Censor
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To: RebelDawg
Yay! Go TEAM! Fight Fight Fight! (The truth crusaders need cheerleaders)
13 posted on 05/29/2002 7:35:58 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: PeterPrinciple
So it would seem that history does in fact repeat itself. HHHMMMMMMMMMMMmmm..
14 posted on 05/29/2002 7:59:35 PM PDT by sharkdiver
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To: RebelDawg
The original rationale for the Crusades was more than justified--a defensive war against the international muslim jihad, with its goal of world conquest. But when the Crusaders attacked the Jews and the Orthodox Christians--especially the horrible sack of Constantinople and the establishment of the phony "Latin Empire"--that was something else, which defeated the whole purpose (as the above article indeed says).

All of this history still affects us today. The "Western" attack on the Serbs (which still goes on today), and the bigoted Serbophobia and even Pravoslavophobia (hatred of Orthodox Christians) spouted by so many of the "Western" pundit class is the biggest example in the world today. (The Nazi holocaust, primarily directed against the Jews, but also against Serbs and Russians, was another example.)

All of this is not only criminally unjust, but detracts from our need to fight the international muslim jihad, which is again resurgent.

15 posted on 05/29/2002 8:25:15 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: *History_list;*Christian_list;*Catholic_list;*Clash of Civilizatio

16 posted on 05/29/2002 8:39:43 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: JulieRNR21
I'm glad I was educated in the sixties in the South.
This is exactly how I was taught the Crusades.
Heck....I don't even know the liberal spin...(and don't want to know)
I thought everyone knew this to be the true story.
17 posted on 05/29/2002 8:56:54 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: RebelDawg, Honorary Serb
The good professor is somewhat revisionist in his thinking. Funny how he left out the fact that the Mongols were kicking everybody's butt, Christian and Muslim alike, GENGHIS KHAN, THE MONGOLS AND ASIA, TO 1300. A careful reading will illustrate the role of the Mongols in the Professor's two dimensional view of the 12th Century.

The one exception to Mongol victories was their defeat by Egyptian forces, but heck, the Crusaders also took a licking along the Nile!

18 posted on 05/29/2002 9:53:01 PM PDT by robbinsj
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To: Honorary Serb
Interesting take. Thanks for the history from the Slavic POV.
19 posted on 05/29/2002 9:57:29 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: Cato the Censor
Won't comment on rape of nuns in convents - I've spent too much time analysing propaganda.
But the Stalinist support of the red wings (nationalists were Franco's faction) should not be denied.
20 posted on 05/29/2002 10:33:39 PM PDT by norton
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