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Australia asks citizens to leave sub-continent
The Hindu ^ | May 29, 2002

Posted on 05/29/2002 8:14:58 PM PDT by Sawdring

Canberra, May 29 (Reuters): Australia and New Zealand urged their citizens today to leave India and Pakistan as war fears simmered between the neighbours.

The advice escalated earlier warnings by Canberra and Wellington, which in the week urged citizens to leave the region if they felt their safety was at risk and to defer all non-essential travel to both countries.

The governments are now urging Australians and New Zealanders to defer all travel to either country and ``strongly advised'' citizens to consider leaving India and Pakistan.

``Australians who choose to remain in Pakistan should register with the Australian High Commission in Islamabad, exercise very high levels of personal security awareness and understand that foreigners may be the targets of terrorist acts,'' the Australian foreign affairs department said on its website.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: india; pakistan
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1 posted on 05/29/2002 8:14:59 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Hopalong, Flamefront, AM2000, Aaron_A, Askel5
Bump!
2 posted on 05/29/2002 8:15:59 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring
"...Australians who choose to remain in Pakistan should register with the Australian High Commission in Islamabad..."

Translation...

We'd like to get started compiling a database of your dental records for the graves registration sections that will accompany the decon teams assigned to survey that sector when background radiation levels permit.

3 posted on 05/29/2002 8:24:32 PM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: byron the aussie
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4 posted on 05/29/2002 8:29:00 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: DWSUWF
Bingo
5 posted on 05/29/2002 8:43:34 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Sawdring
This makes sense, I wouldn't want to leave it too late to bug out.

Anyone not wearing a 15 million+ sunblock is going to have a really bad day.

6 posted on 05/29/2002 8:53:16 PM PDT by Dundee
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To: Dundee
Eastern India should be safe unless Pakistan has something up their sleeve or China decides to step in.
7 posted on 05/29/2002 9:01:32 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring
Good. Better they leave now. Otherwise OUR armed forces will end up having to try to evacuate them along with the citizens of a whole bunch of our other allies on the knife's edge of the nuke launches, when they ought to be concentrating 100% on US citizens.
8 posted on 05/29/2002 9:05:41 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Sawdring
If I remember correctly some Pak weapons can reach some parts of eastern India. Plus fallout would come down over eastern India.

I say that unless you've got a dog in this fight, then it's time to bug out.

9 posted on 05/29/2002 9:08:31 PM PDT by Dundee
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To: Sawdring
Eastern India should be safe unless Pakistan has something up their sleeve or China decides to step in.

That's not a risk I'd be willing to take. There are no guarantees in war, and no one knows what'll happen if that many nukes go off more or less simultaneously: it's never been done before.

Better safe than a glow-in-the-dark corpse.

Tuor

10 posted on 05/29/2002 9:12:18 PM PDT by Tuor
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To: Timesink
I think there are about 1000-2000 Aussies in both India and Pakistan.

The US has about 20 000-40 000 in both. Australia isn't counting on the US for anything when it hits the fan for the reason that the US is going to hard pressed to get its own citizens out.

11 posted on 05/29/2002 9:16:26 PM PDT by Dundee
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To: Sawdring
Once India nukes Pakistan, they should have no problem marching all the way to Turkey.
12 posted on 05/29/2002 9:21:54 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: Dundee
NBC said tonight that the US armed forces is planning to evacuate 150,000 people.
13 posted on 05/29/2002 9:30:50 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
That probably includes British citizens. There are large numbers of them in both countries.
14 posted on 05/29/2002 10:19:35 PM PDT by Dundee
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To: Timesink
Well then, I guess they are betting it's about to blow and in a nasty way over there.
15 posted on 05/29/2002 10:45:42 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Yep, going to get real nasty there. Both are passing out nuclear hand grenades as we speak.
16 posted on 05/29/2002 10:53:37 PM PDT by jwh_Denver
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To: Timesink
U.S. Plans Airlift from India, Pakistan -Paper
Thu May 30, 1:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government is drawing up plans for a mass evacuation of some 64,000 Americans from India and Pakistan as tensions escalate between the two nuclear foes over disputed Kashmir (news - web sites), USA Today reported on Thursday.

A U.S. government team is in India working on a contingency plan to evacuate 1,100 U.S. troops on three bases in Pakistan and up to 63,000 U.S. citizens in both countries, the newspaper reported.

State Department officials are working with officials from the U.S. military's Pacific Command on plans for a massive airlift of American civilians, the paper reported, citing an unnamed Pentagon (news - web sites) official with access to the plan.

A State Department spokesman was not immediately available for comment.

India and Pakistan have been exchanging mortar and machinegun fire across the frontier in disputed Kashmir for days as fears of an all-out war heighten. The two countries have fought three wars since 1947, including two over Kashmir. Both sides have mobilized a million men along their border in a confrontation triggered by a December raid on India's parliament which New Delhi blamed on Pakistan-based Islamic rebel groups fighting Indian rule in Muslim-majority Kashmir. Tensions soared after a May 14 raid on an Indian army camp in the Himalayan region that India blamed on the same guerrillas it said attacked the parliament. U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage will visit India and Pakistan on June 6 and 7 on a mission to attempt to defuse the crisis, which threatens to disrupt the U.S. military campaign against remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda in western Pakistan and nearby Afghanistan (news - web sites). U.S. networks ABC and NBC reported on Wednesday that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld also might be dispatched to the region to try to head off a war. The White House referred questions on the reports to the Pentagon, where a spokesman said he had no information on a possible visit by Rumsfeld to South Asia.

17 posted on 05/29/2002 11:00:47 PM PDT by d4now
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To: d4now;Dundee
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government is drawing up plans for a mass evacuation of some 64,000 Americans from India and Pakistan as tensions escalate between the two nuclear foes over disputed Kashmir (news - web sites), USA Today reported on Thursday.

I'm not trying to get in a pissing match here; I'm simply saying that we would be called on to evacuate far more people than just Americans. In fact, the 150,000 number I remembered above is incorrect, and far too low. From http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp:

Meanwhile, the U.S. military is planning for the possibility of a large-scale evacuation effort for Americans and nationals from allied countries living in India an Pakistan.

There are an estimated 80,000 Americans in India alone, but Pentagon officials estimate that any large-scale evacuation may involved as many as 250,000 people.

Source: NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski.
18 posted on 05/29/2002 11:37:59 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Dundee
Anyone not wearing a 15 million+ sunblock is going to have a really bad day.

Good thing about nukes is that it renders war between nuclear foes obsolete, for the most part.

I trust that these two nations are sane enough not having to resort to use nuclear weapons similiar to the Russians and the Americans during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

19 posted on 05/29/2002 11:41:55 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
I trust that these two nations are sane enough not having to resort to use nuclear weapons similiar to the Russians and the Americans during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The kind of terrorism we're seeing in Kashmir, had it occurred in Washington during the Cuban Missile Crisis, certainly would have result in World War. That's what we're looking at here.

I think your trust in Pakistan's sanity may be misplaced.

20 posted on 05/30/2002 2:08:17 AM PDT by cgk
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