Just one big happy family...
Posted on 05/31/2002 3:18:30 AM PDT by gd124
Blah, blah, blah.
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -
Edmund Burke
"Necessity is the plea for every infrngement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -
William Pitt
As for the cell phones, any fool who thought they weren't being monitored already has his head in the sand. I forget the name of the company in Jersey, but in archives cell records on a national basis for "marketing and research" purposes already.
The news in this article is old news in "the land of the free"
Just one big happy family...
This whole scenario is rather chilling...
I suspect that's exactly what the NSA looks for in the billions of messages sent every hour. Encryption tags probably cause the message to be directed to queues for brute force decryption and examination. If you're a bad guy, encryption is probably the worst thing you can do.
Can you give me and example of one?
I think they have to be on for this to work, but I recall hearing about one coming out which may transcend that.
American's have had more liberty from government, but I don't think American's have ever been more 'free' from prying eyes and social pressures as they go about their business than we are today. The internet and computer technology has invested us with unprecedented power and anonymity that is being abused. It's inevitable that something will need to come along to balance that out, be it private databases or government eavesdropping.
I doubt that any of the chicken-littles on this thread noticed it, but the article states that the, "police will still require a warrant to intercept the content of electronic communications". Some may not even notice it after reading it again in my post…
I found a feature list of 'anonymous' browsers.
And here's an article dismissing anonymous browsers.
Even if logs are not kept, what do you think are the odds that some agency isn't intercepting all the traffic to and from these things.
You think Uncle Sam will have these powers by the end of the year or the end of the summer?
ROFL. Brute force doesn't get you anywhere.
See http://senderek.de/security/secret-key.protection.html
But the point of this vote would be to ensure that anyone who used this security was a criminal just for doing so, whether or not they were hiding anything criminal. Or, as the page says about this very legislation:
The British Government has pushed the Regulations of Investigative Powers Act (RIPA) through legislation which provides for orders to disclose private encryption keys and threatens everyone served with those orders with two or even five years of jail who fails to comply with the demands. While some are still figuring out how far the powers provided by this act will reach - - - - the conditions under which orders may be served or surveilance devices can be installed seem pretty much stretchable - others begin to protest while other EU governments seem to show the political will to adopt this famous legislation. The unequivocal obligation to reveal your private communication by law is an effective method to tempt the uninformed public into not using cryptography to protect their privacy and to criminalize those who do.
(boldface mine)
Similarly, over here FBI can now get no-notification warrants to tap your keyboard; all the fancy crypto means nothing if you hand over your keys without knowing it. But that at least requires a warrant, which means they're not simply sitting back watching everyone at once but forced to identify wrongdoers first and then proving it (and best wishes to FBI, too, when they stick to this normal approach).
<g> Maybe you better do more investigating and less ROTF. (Though admittedly, it's not pure brute force.)
The goal of crypto isn't, by the way, to make the plaintext unreadable forever. It's just to make it unreadable until its intelligence value degrades. For example, if Rommel had a coded msg from 3rd Army HQ and didn't get plaintext until 6/7/1944, it's kinda old news...
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