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The FBI's Orwellianspeak
CNSNews.com ^ | May 31, 2002 | C.T. Rossi

Posted on 05/31/2002 5:14:31 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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1 posted on 05/31/2002 5:14:31 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen;Joe Montana;Fred Mertz;Okc submariner;Uncle Bill;rdavis84
BUMP !!!!!!!!
2 posted on 05/31/2002 5:28:05 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Stand Watch Listen
"must never forget that our actions must be undertaken according to a constitutional and statutory framework that protects the rights and privacy of our citizens. That too is part of our culture . . .".

Tell that to the Branch Dividians or Randy Weaver. The FBI is an out of control executive branch agency without direction or accountability. We are better off without it.

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

3 posted on 05/31/2002 5:31:22 AM PDT by Boonie Rat
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To: Stand Watch Listen
When those responsible for WACO and RUBY RIDGE are punished then I will once again have faith in the FBI
It is just anorther CYA police force now with too much power

End the stupid WAR ON DRUGS

DEPORT ALL Students from ARAB countries PERIOD and round up all the illegals period and send them back and leave American Citizens rights alone
4 posted on 05/31/2002 5:35:09 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Donald Stone
It's amazing to me that FR "readers" appear to be so narrowly focused on protecting their guys that they Can't consider the coming abuses at an order of magnitude of probably 10 by the next Clinton administration.

I really have lost any possible future sympathy for them and the rest of the sheep who're riding their bandwagon.

5 posted on 05/31/2002 5:37:15 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Abolish the FBI. It is unconstutitional and impotent.
6 posted on 05/31/2002 5:39:37 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Mildly entertaining, but points off if Orwell's 1984 featured "newspeak" rather than "doublespeak".
7 posted on 05/31/2002 5:40:18 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: Stirner
I Muellers speech an 8...dont care for the lyrics but its easy to dance to.
8 posted on 05/31/2002 5:49:35 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I watched with interest the C-Span 2 forum with Judicial Watch spokesperson Larry Klayman last evening. Having heard this report I am now convinced that the FBI "overhaul" is a new coat of paint on a very wobbly building. The FBI is consumed with their own importance and will not make any worthwhile improvements. With the information presented in C-Span 2 reports last evening at 10PM, I am now more fearful of what is going to occur in this country in the future by our terrorist enemies. k2afe
9 posted on 05/31/2002 5:57:17 AM PDT by k2afe
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To: Stand Watch Listen
bump for the light of day to shine on the emperor's new clothes.

Regards

J.R.

10 posted on 05/31/2002 6:08:44 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: rdavis84
All together, now:

Oh my God, the sky is falling and we are all going to die - once again!

11 posted on 05/31/2002 6:14:49 AM PDT by verity
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Mueller got his job a few days before 9/11. Since then, he's participated in the coverup of FBI failures. The Wall Street Journal is correct, Mueller should resign, he's not up to the job. Compare him to Rumsfeld.
12 posted on 05/31/2002 7:27:30 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: verity
Oh my God, the sky is falling and we are all going to die - once again!

Cogent analysis. I take it you have nothing intelligent on the matter?

13 posted on 05/31/2002 7:35:20 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: verity
The WSJ is SUCH a Liberal Rag!!!!
14 posted on 05/31/2002 8:08:37 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Demidog
"Abolish the FBI. It is unconstutitional and impotent"

They're not impotent when you let them sneak up on a Mother and Child and Shoot the Mother in the head. I think that gave them a Viagra High.

15 posted on 05/31/2002 8:12:14 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: *terrorWar;*Espionage_list
Index
16 posted on 05/31/2002 9:03:50 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Donald Stone,Philman_36,Native American Female Vet,Free the USA,Spar,Carry_Okie,Senator Pardek,Do
Should I RE-ASSESS the RE_CASTING and RE-ENTRENCHMENT of the FBI methods for RE_EXTENDING the FBI ANALYTICAL TECHNIQUES AND BUREAUCRATIC VERBAGE under an FBI defined Constitutional FRAMEWORK?

Or should I speak the truth and say that the FBI is REPACKAGING the same methods of lying and deceit it has always used to fool the American people into allowing the FBI to spy more on Americans in Churches and with Carnivore and automatic phone taps and violate their civil rights,freedoms and privacy under the Bill of Rights?

The FBI and DOJ are gutting the substance of the Constitution while pretending to stay within the FRAMEWORK of the Constitution under the guise of the Patriot Act. THe right of assembly, petiton of the government, free speech, bear arms, is being abridged by the FBI.

But in the true spirit of "double think" the FBI and DOJ say loss of freedom is necessary to keep freedom in America.

This is utter Bull Excrement on the part of the FBI and DOJ!

Rush Limbaugh devoted his entire show yesterday to his criticisms of the FBI and DOJ wrongfully taking away American freedoms which he said Americans will regret in a few years.

One thing Rush did not mention, is that freedoms when lost to government are not easily RE-INSTATED by just electing someone else who will change the law. History has shown for thousands of years that Freedoms are RE-GAINED sadly with bloodshed and loss of life and over a long period of struggle.

If people realized what the price was that was paid for our freedoms and the price that will have to be paid to get them back, Americans would not be so willing to so easily give their freedoms up to have a few moments of a false sense of security from terrorists who the government is not really protecting them from anyway.

From the article:

Hoover once said, "Just the minute the FBI begins making recommendations on what should be done with its information, it becomes a Gestapo."

If Hoover was correct then the FBI NOW has become a Gestapo.

And the question becomes a Gestapo for whom? World Government socialists in the US and around the world (EU and UN and Communist Countries)?

Senator Orin Hatch, on the Senate Judiciary Committee (has Constitutional oversight of the FBI) helped set up the FBI global school in Budapest Hunagry where he gave the first commencement address in 1996.

Gestapo has a bad habit of making it difficult for the people to criticise and pressure their government leaders to ever change things back to RE-GAIN their lost freedoms.

17 posted on 05/31/2002 9:48:10 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
One word sums up what is happening to America, slowly but surely :

ENSLAVEMENT

18 posted on 05/31/2002 9:53:15 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." Justice William O. Douglas

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever - and remember that it is forever. George Orwell

19 posted on 05/31/2002 9:57:15 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Thanks for the post.

Please see replies #17 and #18.

20 posted on 05/31/2002 9:58:28 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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