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Rush was talking about Bono and Africa yesterday. What Bono and idiotic liberals like Krugman won't face is the fact that the GOVERNMENTS in Africa skim most of the foreign aid money and/or food aid. Let's use the example cited by Krugman. A well doesn't cost all that much and provides great benefits. However, it costs a small fortune if FIRST a whole bunch of government bureaucrats have to be paid off. As Rush said, the BIGGEST cause of poverty in Africa is their very governments themselves.
1 posted on 05/31/2002 6:00:39 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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Bono loves to spend other people's money.
2 posted on 05/31/2002 6:04:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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a dime a day per American
Of course, Krugman would never support a tax of a dime a day on every American.
3 posted on 05/31/2002 6:04:20 AM PDT by Dales
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Where's the barf alert? And when was the last time Mr. Krugman sent some of his own money to Uganda?
4 posted on 05/31/2002 6:06:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Nutty article.

If a new well which might have cost $900 to put in is so good for the villagers, why can't the WHO and other people who get our money show thousands upon thousands of such wells in villages everywhere?

Reason: they don't want to spend the money on low and slow style projects, they want the big win, high dollar stuff.

5 posted on 05/31/2002 6:07:26 AM PDT by ikka
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Someone should flag this idiotic Krugman article to Rush. He was talking at length about Bono and Africa yesterday and made the point that the REASON for poverty in Africa is the CORRUPTION of their GOVERNMENTS. They skim off most of the foreign aid money for their own pockets.
6 posted on 05/31/2002 6:08:01 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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Rush was talking about Bono and Africa yesterday.

Bono was confusing the Consitution with the Statue of Liberty inscription.
Please stick to the music making.

7 posted on 05/31/2002 6:09:18 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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Two things.

1. Africa is one of, if not the richest continent in the world.

2. Giving African nations foreign aid is like paying reparations for not enslaving them.

10 posted on 05/31/2002 6:11:24 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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I get very confused by the messages of liberals. When you watch nature shows, invariably there is a bias against the intrusion of western ways on the peaceful, nomadic simple life of natives in various parts of the undeveloped countries. Liberal celebrate the facts that these people live in squalid huts, eat all kinds of vermin and lack personal hygiene, but yet it's claimed that they are the truly happy among us. We're the ones who have it all wrong.

Yet these same liberals, like Bono, want us to spend untold trillions to modernize and westernize the undeveloped world.

The only conclusion I can draw is that liberals want us to stay in a perpetual state of guilt. Guilt that we're doing too much, guilt that we're not doing enough--guilt...guilt...guilt.

That's the only way to make sense out of the mixed messages liberals send and I've just chosen to ignore them.

12 posted on 05/31/2002 6:17:33 AM PDT by randita
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Hey Krugman, why don't we just get taxed at a 99% rate so we eliminate all the world's problems? What?...You say that is not reasonable? Well, why is not reasonable to expect better results with the staggering amount of money we give for foreign aid each year? I mean have you not been harping and harping for months on how the economy cannot afford deficit spending? You think we should spend more now? HELLLOOOOO KRUGMAN!

How about you take your $50,000 in Enron consulting fees you eagerly took and donate it to an African charity that will surely spend every penny on helping people (sarcasm off).

This is going to be the liberal RAT attack. We are too cheap and tax cuts=death and suffering for Africans.This is so pathetic considering all of the hoopla about the deficit.

14 posted on 05/31/2002 6:22:34 AM PDT by finnman69
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PAUL O'NEILL:
JUST ANOTHER EMBARRASSING REPUBLICAN


15 posted on 05/31/2002 6:23:27 AM PDT by Jethro Tull
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Was that pro-Bono?
16 posted on 05/31/2002 6:23:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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We could roll back the ban on DDT. That would save many lives and cost very little- and surely the liberals, who care about mankind so much, wouldn't mind.
18 posted on 05/31/2002 6:26:50 AM PDT by Cleburne
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The problem is that we've stopped letting evolution take its own course and these days civilizations that should crumble and become extinct are being propped up by others.

Let the people of Africa figure it out for themselves and if they can't then maybe mother nature thinks they shouldn't be around anymore.

19 posted on 05/31/2002 6:30:23 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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"If the excess over $5 million were taxed at pre-2001 rates, the average taxed family would be left with $10 million — which doesn't sound like hardship to me — and the government would collect $20 billion in revenue each year. But no; the whole tax must go."

  So, unless I misunderstand (entirely possible), this guy sees nothing wrong with the government collecting 1/3 of the value of the property, simply because HE feels that $10M should be enough for anyone? ~whew~
20 posted on 05/31/2002 6:33:01 AM PDT by Still Using Air
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Whose money is he wanting to send? I don't care how much of his own money he sends to Africa ---but he can take his grubby hands out of my pockets.
21 posted on 05/31/2002 6:34:28 AM PDT by FITZ
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As Rush said, the BIGGEST cause of poverty in Africa is their very governments themselves.

Rush is right, the biggest cause of poverty anywhere is almost always because of the kind of government they have.

22 posted on 05/31/2002 6:36:36 AM PDT by FITZ
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Yeah, send us mo' money; the prez and his family bank account are really becoming quite niggardly. And, oh yeah, do send some mo' U.N. observers -- that last bunch was deeee-licious.
23 posted on 05/31/2002 6:39:40 AM PDT by Migraine
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But when asked to give up revenue equal to twice that cost, in order to allow each of 3,300 lucky families to collect its full $16 million inheritance rather than a mere $10 million, we don't hesitate.

What a commie!

28 posted on 05/31/2002 6:47:23 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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Foreign Aid has proven itself to be counter-productive. It grows the governments in those countries, which then repress, suppress and oppress their people.

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But they are blind. They write about ending poverty, without ever talking about property.

Poverty = lack of wealth
Wealth = property
Ending poverty = getting property in the hands of the poor.

D'oh!

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29 posted on 05/31/2002 6:51:06 AM PDT by Kermit
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"By the way, the United States currently spends 0.11 percent of G.D.P. on foreign aid; Canada and major European countries are about three times as generous."

The recipient of aid doesn't care about percentage of GDP. He cares about raw dollars! So, Bono wants the US to match Canada? France? Spain? Well, he's got my vote!

32 posted on 05/31/2002 6:54:39 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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