Tens of millions of people around the world originally suspected that Flight 800 was the victim of a missile shootdown because of the initial press reports of a fiery streak tracking to the place in the sky where a HUGE fireball [aka Massive Fireball or MF] then exploded. They did so because they assumed the huge fireball exploded where the 747 was flying [at 13,800 feet at 8:31:12].
ALL the "shootdown" tinfoil hats made that assumption
The report of witnesses Faret & Wendell was the first detailed report to be posted on the internet but by then the tinfoil hat witness report analyst wannabe's had so completely convinced each other that Flight 800 was a "shootdown" victim that it had destroyed their own objectivity so badly that they failed to notice that Faret & Wendell clearly indicated the the Massive Fireball explosion was below their own flight altitude of 8500 feet and proceded to tout them as their star "shootdown" witnesses.
Only when it was publicly pointed out to them in a posting to the LSoft Flight 800 Forum in August 1997 that Faret & Wendell had made it clear the Massive Fireball was below 8500 feet did the tinfoil hats begin to realize their blunder. Which you and some of the rest of them have since tried to cover up with your efforts to discredit Faret & Wendell.
It appears that Richard Hirsch made the 2 most notable efforts to discredit them.
The first was his second smoke cloud notion, the allegation being that the smoke cloud left by the Massive Fireball explosion - and the smoke trail it left as it fell to the sea - had blown away and that the smoke cloud and trail Faret & Wendell flew over to had thereafter formed from rising smoke from the surface flames. That's why you're now talking about the winds aloft. Did Hirsch ever ask them if they saw the smoke cloud and trail disappear and get replaced by a second smoke cloud and trail that arose from the surface flames as they flew toward it?
The second was Hirsch's just plain goofy allegation that airline pilot David McClaine saw the Massive Fireball explode at or near 13,800 feet. Did he ever ask McClaine what his best estimate of the falltime of the Massive Fireball flames to the surface was?
As in any incident, there was only ONE sequence of events in the Flight 800 disaster and ALL of the fiery events in the sky observed by the eyewitnesses clearly appear to have taken place far below 13,800 feet and long after 8:31:12 - in short, during the final stages of the crippled flight of TWA Flight 800, just as the NTSB has stated.
The timeline and location of the major events of the disaster was approximately as follows:
8:31:11 Intact and climbing 747 approaches 13,800 feet.
8:31:12 Initiating Event at 13,800 feet followed immediately by the commencement of the decapitation process.
8:31:47 explosion of Massive Fireball at 5500-7500 feet. The eyewitnesses contend that the Massive Fireball explosion was immediately preceded by the fiery streak.
8:31:55-8:31:57 splashdown of the Massive Fireball flames.
Source.
Notice the falltime of the Massive Fireball flames to the surface was approximately 8-10 seconds. Didn't witness Meyer say that he and his helicopter crewmates agreed at the time that the falltime was approximately 10 seconds? Isn't that a glaringly obvious impossibility from anywhere near 13,800 feet? Are you and some of the other tinfoil hats going to try to discredit him too - after touting him as a grizzled unflappable air combat veteran who knows what he saw?.
According to the NTSB Airborne Witness Matrix, ALL of the pilot witnesses who estimated the Massive Fireball explosion altitude gave estimates that were all compatible with Faret & Wendell's report - some of them estimating even lower altitudes. Are the tinfoil hats going to attempt to discredit ALL of them too?
How about The Sworn Testimony of FBI Chief Metallurgist William Tobin that there was no evidence of a missile shootdown or bomb in the recovered wreckage. The tinfoil hats have never been able to publicly produce any physical evidence to the contrary. Are they going to try to discredit Tobin too?
The "missile(s) shootdown" tinfoil hats have smeared thousands of Americans - including members of the U.S. military - by falsely accusing them of heinous crimes for nearly six years now without any supporting evidence.
All because of the erroneous assumption at the outset that the Massive Fireball explosion took place at or near 13,800 feet at 8:31:12.
...A short "pin flash of light" appeared on the ground (perhaps water). Very shortly thereafter the white light exploded instantaneously into a huge red-orange ball. My initial response was, "Who's shooting fireworks tonight?". The magnitude of the fire ball, and altitude, quickly (less than a second) ruled that out. Immediately thereafter a large fire ball emerged from the bottom of the initial fireball, accelerating straight down, as if it had just started to fall. Like a teardrop it drew with it a tail of fire down to the water surface. We watched intently as the descending fire fell closer to the water. ... We proceeded to fly over to the smoke cloud.
I am merely pointing out that Faret and Wendell reported the observed cloud that they were flying over to as moving North Northwest.
Based on the actual reported winds aloft. Their observation of the direction of movement of the cloud is WRONG.
How do you explain that. And if this is wrong, what else is wrong in their witness statement?
In regards to your babble about Fritz Meyer...
Are you and some of the other tinfoil hats going to try to discredit him too - after touting him as a grizzled unflappable air combat veteran who knows what he saw?
...Heck no...Nobody has to tout anything about Meyers military experience, it's pretty well a matter of public record, contrary to your un-documented allegations of honorable service.
Us tin-foil hats will just keep you wondering...;^)
Oh...Since you're using addendums to Ferat and Wendell's original statement, then surely you won't find fault in my using addendums to Fritz Meyer's testimony...Will ya...Huh?
The initiating event happened in the fuel tank at 8:31:12, which led to the decapitation process. (What do you mean by decapitation process?) The plane went up for a while, which is the fiery streak the witnesses saw. Thirty five seconds later, the massive fireball happened. Eight to ten seconds later, the fireball flames splashed down.
Is this correct?