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Judge: "Ashcroft's Policies Idiotic"
CounterPunch.com ^ | May 31, 2002 | Walt Brasch

Posted on 06/01/2002 5:54:25 PM PDT by Alan Chapman

With one word, a federal judge has described not only John Ashcroft's handling of the Department of Justice, but also the Bush administration's policy of citing national security as the reason why it's trying to hide the Constitution from Americans.

U.S. District Judge Robert G. Doumar says Ashcroft's super-secret policies and violation of basic Constitutional guidelines sounds "idiotic."

Yaser Esam Hamdi, 21, an American citizen born in Louisiana but captured in Afghanistan, has been confined at the Norfolk (Va.) Naval Station since April 5. The Justice Department claims that since Hamdi is a captured enemy combatant not only isn't he entitled to legal representation but can be held indefinitely since he hasn't been charged with any crime. "That sounds idiotic, doesn't it?" asks Judge Doumar. Ashcroft also believes it's the government's right to record all lawyer-client communication; Judge Doumar, citing the Constitution and more than two centuries of American legal precedent, disagrees.

In a related case, U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler will decide if the government has any Constitutional basis to keep secret the names and charges against those it currently detains as terrorists. Ironically, the Justice Department admits that many of those it's hiding from the public are not terrorist suspects. In numerous actions, Ashcroft and Vice-President Dick Cheney have retreated into their bunkers, arguing that the secrecy and the shredding of Constitutional guidelines are necessary for national security. Cheney himself told the Senate leadership in February that Bush officials would probably defy all attempts to question them about what they knew before and after the Sept. 11 attacks. Both Ashcroft and Cheney have labeled dissent, even by leaders of both major political parties, to be unpatriotic, something that should cause even more fear in Americans than anything that happened Sept. 11.

The Bush administration's quest for secrecy is understandable, considering it was primarily staring at headlights prior to Sept. 11. Newsweek and numerous other publications now report that the Bush administration, probably for political reasons, discounted the Clinton administration's severe and substantial warnings about terrorist activities. Ashcroft himself opposed an FBI proposal to add more counter-terrorism agents. Numerous memos by the CIA, backed by data from foreign intelligence agencies, were shuffled into a bureaucratic limbo by the Bush administration. These are the same leaders who agreed that color-coded days was a brilliant concept are now chomping away at our civil rights.

In the first weeks after the attacks, Americans gave the government wide latitude to seek out and destroy those responsible. The people realized they may have to temporarily yield a few of their own civil rights to gain their permanent security, a reality of life but one that would have shocked and saddened the nation's founders who wrote our keystone documents under terrors we can't even imagine.

John Ashcroft saw the confusion after Sept. 11 as political convenience. Within two months, drafted in secret under a cloak of "national security," Ashcroft had bullied Congress to pass the USA Patriot Act. Most of Congress now admit they didn't read the 342-page document which butts against Constitutional protections of the First (free speech), Fourth (unreasonable searches), Fifth (right against self-incrimination), and Sixth (due process) amendments.

President Bush--in Europe telling our allies that the reason to modernize the military is to make it more modern--has cloaked himself in the fiction of national security to justify a political agenda of secrecy. His popularity rating remains over 60 percent, even though his leading political advisor joyfully proclaims that the events of Sept. 11 should help elect more Republicans in the Fall elections.

What the President and his advisors must understand, yet may not be prepared to admit, is that Americans are giving unprecedented support not because they believe the President is a brilliant war leader but because they believe in the country, and hope that solidarity and increased vigilance will be the fortress against continued attacks upon the nation.

FBI director Robert Mueller, acknowledging numerous problems in America's intelligence-gathering and analysis, and in announcing a massive reorganization of his agency, says the FBI "has been the agency to protect the rights of others."

As long as John Ashcroft, Dick Cheney, and numerous Bush officials believe the Constitution is nothing more than a scrap of paper to be used to justify a cover-up for their own problems, then anything Mueller says is nothing more than empty rhetoric.

It is important to destroy terrorism. It's just as important we don't destroy the American fabric to do so.


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1 posted on 06/01/2002 5:54:25 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: *libertarians
 
2 posted on 06/01/2002 5:54:46 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
Alexander Cockburn is a raving socialist. Why should I care what his website thinks?
3 posted on 06/01/2002 5:57:04 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Alan Chapman
Millions dying as a result of a terrorist nuke is idiotic.
4 posted on 06/01/2002 5:59:30 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Alan Chapman
stop screwing around and deport the lil buggers
5 posted on 06/01/2002 5:59:35 PM PDT by linn37
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To: Alan Chapman
Oh, my. Get ready for Bushbots on Parade.
6 posted on 06/01/2002 6:00:04 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: JMJ333
You should care because they are still holding hundreds of people without charging them and without any semblence of due process. Today it is the demonized Arabs being treated that way. Once is was the demonized Japanese-Americans. Who knows who will be the next demonized group. It might be a group that includes you.
7 posted on 06/01/2002 6:02:59 PM PDT by Mike4Freedom
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To: Alan Chapman
timesdispatch.com
"The solicitor general's office argued in its appeal that U.S. District Judge Robert Doumar improperly strayed into foreign policy issues. Allowing a lawyer to talk to an "unlawful combatant" could damage interrogators' efforts to learn about the Taliban and the al-Qaida terrorist network, the government argued. "

''What is the law which governs an army invading an enemy's country?'' the Court asked in Dow v. Johnson.1535 ''It is not the civil law of the invaded country; it is not the civil law of the conquering country; it is military law--the law of war--and its supremacy for the protection of the officers and soldiers of the army, when in service in the field in the enemy's country, is as essential to the efficiency of the army as the supremacy of the civil law at home, and, in time of peace, is essential to the preservation of liberty.''

I think the judge just wants a higher ruling, and this article is a typical pantload.

8 posted on 06/01/2002 6:10:04 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Mike4Freedom
I get suspicious when people like Cockburn are used as champions of freedom. I am more worried about the arabs starting a jihad over here than I am of what some socialist has to say about Ashcroft.
9 posted on 06/01/2002 6:10:18 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Alan Chapman
The Bush administration's quest for secrecy is understandable, considering it was primarily staring at headlights prior to Sept. 11. Newsweek and numerous other publications now report that the Bush administration, probably for political reasons, discounted the Clinton administration's severe and substantial warnings about terrorist activities.

To make the ridiculous claim that Clinton was on top of the terror war and Bush chose to ignore Clinton’s solid advice; proves this writer is incapable of intelligent analysis. What ever of the rest of the story may have some validity must simply be due to the authors parroting of someone else’s ideas, so why don’t you find the original source for the ideas and post their work.

10 posted on 06/01/2002 6:15:10 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Mike4Freedom
Who knows who will be the next demonized group

The next "group" that decides to blow something up and I could care less how many times the word “patriot” is used in its name.

11 posted on 06/01/2002 6:15:43 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Alan Chapman
Yawn, another Ashcroft hit piece.
12 posted on 06/01/2002 6:17:25 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Mike4Freedom
Well which way is it to be? Are we "demonizing" the Arabs and persecuting them or are we too soft on illegal aliens coming into the country, or did the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. drop the ball prior to 9-11? Comparing the events of WWII with the Japanese and the events subsequent to 9-11 with the Arabs just does not stand up. The potential for the Japanese during WWII to spy and carry out minor acts of sabotage cannot,in any way, compare to the capabillities of terrorists today. Until such a time as we have a greater control over the potential for terrorism in our country, we cannot expect that life will be as usual, it isn't possible. Our present laws were made in a time when these acts were either not possible or undreamed of. A new assessment is underway and will, in it's wake, cause some problems serious and not so serious. This is not a college debate, it truly is a matter of life and death. When in survival mode we must act to protect our very lives. I am NOT condoning an ignorance of our constitution but an awareness of the present situation.
13 posted on 06/01/2002 6:24:46 PM PDT by elephantlips
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To: Paul Atreides
Millions dying as a result of a terrorist nuke is idiotic.

And giving billions in foreign-aid to governments known to finance and harbor terrorists is what? And stationing troops in countries where they're not welcome is what? And threatening other countries with military invasion if they don't capitulate to our demands it what? And dropping bombs on civilians in other countries as punishment for the deeds of their governments is what?

14 posted on 06/01/2002 6:30:04 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: JMJ333
Alexander Cockburn is a raving socialist. Why should I care what his website thinks?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, as the saying goes. What are your thoughts on the content of the article?

15 posted on 06/01/2002 6:32:22 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
In a related case, U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler will decide if the government has any Constitutional basis to keep secret the names and charges against those it currently detains as terrorists.

We *must* be safe at whatever cost. It's for the children.

Tuor

16 posted on 06/01/2002 6:35:26 PM PDT by Tuor
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To: Mike4Freedom
That is called setting 'the precedent' as I learned when Reno was AG.
17 posted on 06/01/2002 6:37:14 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: JMJ333
I am more worried about the arabs starting a jihad over here than I am of what some
socialist has to say about Ashcroft.


While I'd like to see prosecutions move quickly on the detainees, this is an exceptional
band of terrorists we fight. The "true believers" that would gladly die setting off
a dirty nuke in downtown NYC have managed to disguise themselves as low-level Taliban
or perhaps our own neighbors.

Although the DOJ may be on thin ice with it's approach, what gets me is the inability of
those pushing for immediate release or prosecution to see the "unintended consequences" of their
position.

Although I've never heard/seen any such accusation, I suspect that once the "human rights"
crowd started their wailing about the treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay,
I wouldn't be suprised if an unspoken "no prisonsers" mentality hit the US soldier
on the ground.

Why not just kill any suspected Taliban/Al-Quida when you encounter them...
the ACLU will just get them released if we capture them...
I wouldn't be suprised if the ACLU didn't just sign the death warrants of thousands
of combatants (and some innocent bystanders) with their do-gooder crusade.
18 posted on 06/01/2002 6:39:49 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Tuor
It's for the children.

You don't have children do you?

19 posted on 06/01/2002 6:42:48 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
The next "group" that decides to blow something up

Not necessarily, and that is why you should be concerned.

Tuor

20 posted on 06/01/2002 6:45:31 PM PDT by Tuor
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